Angelina MOWER born 1829 - Bury

[hmserge]

It would be great if we could find the christening details for angelina. 

I'm not sure how you all seem to get this information so quickly, but it's great.

I wonder who would have parish record details for Bury?

thank you all again

[lizdb]

I've just looked at the 1851 census again... and the address is Rope Walk, on the marriage certificate for Angelina it states that she is living at Rope Walk.

well done - another indication that we are on to the right track with this Sophia/Adelaide family
Addresses on certs can be so useful for confirming things like that.

[lizdb]

I wonder who would have parish record details for Bury?

I guess they are at the Sufflok Record Office - I dont know it myself at all. So if you fancy a holiday in Suffolk....... ! Or a Rootschatter from that area might know if they do look ups, or may be going themselves.....

[hmserge]

Do you think that the Frederick Mower on the marriage certificate is her dad, but maybe died when she was young?

Or do you think he is the Frederick Mower in Southwark, London area?

[lizdb]

We just dont know what the situaiton is at present. Angelina gave Frederick Mower as the name of her dad when she married. That is all we know.
We have not found any more evidence of Frederick as Angelina's dad - like the family all together on a census or a christeneing record of Angelina naming him, or a marriage record of her parents etc. This is made more difficult by the fact that it is pre1837.

So at the moment all we have is Angelina's word. If Angelina was illegitimate she could have made up a father's name for her marriage cert. Or if her real father remarried she could have used a step fathers name. Or ... anything....
It may be straightforward - Frederick married Sophia and they have a dtr Angelina then 10 yrs later a dtr Adelaide but he dies soon after - but we have found NO evidence to back that up yet. Or it may not be.
Only when we are sure that Frederick a) exists and b) is Angelina's father can you safely start looking to see which Frederick Mower he is. At the moment i si too risky to start pursuing a Fred. Mower born in Southwark - he could be a complete red herring.

Got to look for a chr. record for Angelina next . in my humble opinion.

[hmserge]

Thanks for replying.

I managed to get in touch with someone who had copies of the parish records for 2 different churches in Bury.. she checked for me, but said she couldn't find any Angelina.   

I'm not sure how to find which other Parishes in Bury there are or there were back then. 

Maybe I should look on the lines of Sophia Mower's marriage etc?  But how do I find out which Mower she married? 

thanks again

[lizdb]

I guess another possibility (given the age gap between Angelina and Adelaide) is that Angelina was born before Sophia's marriage to Frederick Mower, and so she would have been christened using Sophia's maiden name, or if from a previous marriage then that man's surname.
Did the person look just for Angelina Mower or are you confident they would have spotted any Angelina anythings?

(this thread is getting quite confusing as I see the title has changed and more added to the origiinal request - so the reading of it through does not quite follow!)

[hmserge]

I've just messaged the lady who did the search, to see if she can search for any Angelina, hopefully if she has the time she might be able to do this.  I will let you know if I hear anything.

If I were to search for Sophia's marriage to a Mower, how would I go about this?

Thanks for your help

 

[suffolk*sue]

Don't forget that we can't be absolutely certain at this stage that Sophia was Angelinas mother.