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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #9 on: Friday 17 October 08 17:39 BST (UK) »
The 1841 reads

MOWER
Sophia - 30 - dressmaker - not born in county
Angelina - 13 - nbic
Susanne - 6 months - born in county


There is a possible Sophia in Ipswich in 1851, but she 10 years older, has a daughter of the right age, but different name. Sophias occupation is the same and in 1851 this Sophia is unmarried.
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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 October 08 17:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help.  There are some fantastic, helpful people on here  :)

Okay, how do I go about trying to trace a Frederick Mower?  Or should I maybe search the Frederick Mower from London?

Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #11 on: Friday 17 October 08 17:44 BST (UK) »
Could be Angelina was telling porkies and made up a father. There isn't any possible marriages on the Suffolk Marriage Index 1813-37 for a Frederick Mower.

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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #12 on: Friday 17 October 08 17:53 BST (UK) »
In 1861 the same Sophia Mower puts her age at 54.  ::)


Sophia burial.


 Sophia  MOWER   
 Date of burial: 18 Dec 1865
 Age at death: 64
Calculated year of birth: 1801
Place of burial: Ipswich Cemetery
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Re: FREDERICK MOWER born abt. 1805? or ANGELINA MOWER born 1829 - Census for 1841
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 October 08 18:00 BST (UK) »
naughty Angelina if she was telling porkies lol.

erm.. I found a Frederick Mower born 1807, Christ Church, Southwark, London.. do you think this could be Angelina's father?  If she wasn't lying?

maybe he married Sophia in London area?

Confused   ::)
Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: 1841 Census Please - MOWER
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 October 08 18:05 BST (UK) »
oh thank you.. this Sophia Mower, sounds like the right Sophia.

Ipswich Cemetery does sound like the correct place for burial in the family.

Maybe Fred died when Angelina was young, or maybe there never was a Fred, maybe it was the fred in London, or maybe they never married and he even did a runner lol.

Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: 1841 Census Please - MOWER
« Reply #15 on: Friday 17 October 08 18:07 BST (UK) »
Anythings possible, but trying to find the proof.

I am pretty sure the Sophia in London 1841 is the same Sophia in Ipswich in 1851. What I can't make out is why the baby Susanna changes her name to Adelaide in 1851 and beyond, unless she had two names.
Very confused.
Wonder what others thoughts are on the subject.

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Re: 1841 Census Please - MOWER
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 October 08 18:08 BST (UK) »
I wouldnt try to go to far ahead  at this stage, hmserge
If you make any assumptions tou can go carrering off spending a lot of time and money on the wrong track.

There is certainly a lot to get to the bottom of first with Angelina/Sophia and co.

I cant find a birth reg for either Susan(na) Mower (6 mths in1841) or Adelaid(e) Mower (10 in 1851) who are the girls with the possible Sophias. I know 1840/41 was early days for Civil Registration and not all managed to get round to it....
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: 1841 Census Please - MOWER
« Reply #17 on: Friday 17 October 08 18:10 BST (UK) »
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Its not been possible (in the 1841) to tell if Fred was still around tho - and link to that family group...... have you looked for deaths ?
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