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Rogers from Llanrhydd / Llanelidan
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 18:21 BST (UK) »
Can anyone find the marriage of Thomas and Jane, possibly St Meugan, Llanrhydd.
Also baptisms if possible for Eleanor and Joseph.


1841 All born in county
Rhos St Llanrhydd Ruthin.Denbs   
Thos Rogers 35   printer   
Jane Rogers 30
Eleanor10
Thomas E   5
         
1851 Rhos St, Llanrydd, Ruthin
Thomas Rogers head 48 printer compositor    
Jane wife    41
Thomas (TE) son 15   scholar         
Elizabeth dau 12            
Joseph son 4            
John son    1

There must be some more info on Thomas Rogers around, with quite a good occuption for that time, he certainly makes a change from all the coalminers in the family in later years.


 1861  Clonud ??? Brymbo      
Thomas Harison  ( mispelt) head 35   blacksmith  b Brymbo
Elinor wife 31   dressmaker   b Birmingham
George Edwin son   4      b Brymbo
William Henry son    2      b “
Thomas Frederick son 6mth      b “
Joseph Rogers brother 16 collier   b Ruthin Denbs

I am sure this this the same brother and sister.but in 1871 and even 1881 after she remarries she is saying she`s from Birmingham

1875  Sept qtr Wrexham  Civil Marriage  Eleanor Harrison = Robert Jones

1881 Bryn Mally Old Farm.    
Definately same family, but where is Robert Jones.
Ellenor Jones wife   50 housekeeper    b Birmingham

1881  47 Wigan Road. Hindley      
Joseph Rogers.37 coalminer. b Ruthin
Catherine  wife 37 b Birkenhead.
Edward Rogers son 17 b Birkenhead
Robert Jones 37 lodger b Ruthin 

I can`t find Eleanor in 1851 and can`t find the Rogers in 1861.

 Apologies if this is a bit messy, but it`s the best I can do. ::)
Can anyone help me sort this out.
 :)
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Re: Rogers from Llanrhydd
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 18:36 BST (UK) »
Could you tell us exactly what it is you want from us?
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Re: Rogers from Llanrhydd
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 18:52 BST (UK) »
Marriage of Thomas and Jane , and hopefully baptisms of Eleanor and Joseph, to confirm dates.
 
I can`t find Eleanor in 1851 and can`t find the Rogers in 1861.
maybe help with this.
I have apologised for it being messy, and can`t find a simpler way of explaining.
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Re: Rogers marriage and Baptisms Llanrhydd
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 October 08 07:23 BST (UK) »
I now have both marriage details of Eleanor Rogers / Harrison.
In both she gives her father as Thomas Rogers printer.

This makes it highly likely she is the same one as the one born Ruthin 1841/51 census.

 If anyone out there can help with marriage of Thomas and Jane , also baptisms , I`d be very pleased.
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Re: Rogers from Llanrhydd Marriage and baptisms
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 November 08 18:46 GMT (UK) »
 I can understand now why it seems to have been  a ` BIG REQUEST`
and  no replies so far, not that simple was it  ::)

What a day, trying to find Thomas Rogers,
there are parishes with no Rogers at all, and some with quite a few, but only one Thomas Rogers to be found within 30 years of `our` Thomas.
I looked at =
Ruthin.
Llanrhydd
Llanbedr DC
Llanfwrog
Llanynys
Llanychan
Llanrhaedr ym Nghimerch
Clocaenog
Efenechtydd

Llanelidan Baptisms
   about 6 miles from Ruthin.
Is he the right one == I don`t know
but looking at the ages of the family in the census, they are all quite accurate, to be expected of a man as literate as he would have been.
1803 Sept 4
Thomas Rogers s/o Edward and Catherine.
I did find most of Thomas and Jane`s children.

Ruthin PRs
1837 Dec 27.
John Rogers s/o Thomas printer and Jane. Clwyd St.

Llanrhydd PRs
1840 Jan 15
Elizabeth d/o Thomas printer and Jane Rhos St

1846 Sept 23 Private baptism
Joseph s/o Thomas printer and Jane Rhos St

1849 May 6
John s/o Thomas printer and Jane Rhos St.

I didn`t find Thomas E (Edward ?) bc 1836 or Eleanor, so maybe she was born Birmingham after all.

Burials at Llanrydd
1843 Feb 28
John Rogers aged 1 week Rhos St

1847 May 1
Harriet Rogers aged 3 Rhos St

There were no Rogers in the Llanrhydd bapt register 1757/1812
and no mariages 1813/1837.

So we know Thomas and Jane were in Ruthin by 1837.

Anyone want to attempt the marriage, unfortunately I`m thinking that they will be on Microfilm, am I right
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