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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 October 08 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny

The ref for the 'other' Job is

 RG10/1656 81 53 ...it just seems soooo strange to have a couple and their children with the same names, born about the same time in the same area and hawkers!!!!

 I must admit that my blood started to boil at the enumerator's description of them ..... but then again it was 1871 and what did he know!

deb

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 October 08 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny

The ref for the 'other' Job is

 RG10/1656 81 53 ...it just seems soooo strange to have a couple and their children with the same names, born about the same time in the same area and hawkers!!!!

I must admit that my blood started to boil at the enumerator's description of them ..... but then again it was 1871 and what did he know!

deb



The Job Hedges in this census is the son of the Job Hedges I am trying to connect to William and James as brothers so It is a useful one to have.
I didn't think there were any more out there to find, but you certainly proved me wrong and I feel a little more hopeful that out there somewhere may just be the evidence I am looking for that will prove the three are brothers. :)
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PRINGLE.  Middlesex, London
WELLS. Norwich, Norfolk
HEDGES. Kent, Essex and Sussex
EATON. Staffordshire

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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 October 08 22:53 GMT (UK) »
jenny

I will keep on looking ...

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 October 08 00:18 GMT (UK) »
OK do we have an impostor as we seam to have Job Hedges Junior son of Job Hedges Senior in two places at the time of the 1871 census. He is at Romford with uncle James and at Brentwood as you have just found him. do I have an error somewhere. Details follow

Romford Shakespear Rd, Moss Lane.
Job Hedges age 27 Licensed Hawker  Born Breadhurst Kent
Phoebe Hedges aged 25                   Born Breadhurst Kent
Caroline Daughter age 3                   Born Romford Essex
Nancy daughter aged 1                     Born Birmin Kent

then we have

Brentford gallows green.
Job Hedges aged 30 hawker             Born Unknown
Phoebe Hedges aged 30                    Born Unknown
Caroline Daughter aged 3                 born Romford Essex
Nancy Daughter aged 6 months        Born Romford Essex


Oh dear which is right :-\
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 27 October 08 00:57 GMT (UK) »
This is amazing ...

Could it be possible that there are two Jobs with same wife and children's names in same area at the same time .... :o :o

In 1851 we have this;
I see Job Hedges in 1851 transcribed as HODGES
Caravans
Long Lane Bexley

Job Hodges head mar residing in traveller's caravan/hawker b Berks Windsor
Rosa wife 32 b Sussex
William son 13 b Tonbridge wells Kent
Harriet 11 unemployed b kent Barning?
Job son 8 b Kent Braidhurst ....bc 1843
James son 6 b Kent Cliffe
Jeremiah son 2 b Sussex

he def. fits with the Job in 1871 with 'uncle' James
Job Hedges age 27 Licensed Hawker  Born Breadhurst Kent

so who is Job bc 1841 , POB Unknown? could he be the same guy or a relative ...

will look in 1861 ...although without POB who knowa what we will find ?

deb  :-\
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 October 08 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny

you mentioned that Phoebe and Job also had Ruthie, 1867 and Job 1866 ...I have looked again at the 1871 and can't see them ... I have found this death though;

Job Hedges
bc  1866
died Jun q 1868
aged 2
 Rochford  Essex
Vol 4a p 122

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 October 08 13:07 GMT (UK) »
AHA I think this may be Ruthie  :'(

Ruth Hedger
bc  1867
died Dec q 1867 
 Chelmsford  Essex
Vol 4a p 89

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #16 on: Monday 27 October 08 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny

you mentioned that Phoebe and Job also had Ruthie, 1867 and Job 1866 ...I have looked again at the 1871 and can't see them ... I have found this death though;

Job Hedges
bc  1866
died Jun q 1868
aged 2
 Rochford  Essex
Vol 4a p 122

deb
 

Ah that explains what happened to Baby Job. I found His Baptism on the IGI along with Ruthie the parents were Job and Phoebe. that explains why Baby Job is not on the 1871 Census Perhaps the same happened to Ruthie. How devastating it must be to lose a child.
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #17 on: Monday 27 October 08 14:55 GMT (UK) »
AHA I think this may be Ruthie  :'(

Ruth Hedger
bc  1867
died Dec q 1867 
 Chelmsford  Essex
Vol 4a p 89

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Looks like that must be her. How sad. Good work finding that one. I will send for Certificates as  I am Curious as to why they lost them thank you.
jenny
PRINGLE.  Middlesex, London
WELLS. Norwich, Norfolk
HEDGES. Kent, Essex and Sussex
EATON. Staffordshire