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1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« on: Thursday 30 October 08 09:21 GMT (UK) »
I've had no luck in finding William/Wilhelm SCHEMENSKY.

Apparently born in Hannover (Germany), but I don't know when, he married Julia Burns in 1893 (RD West Ham).

I believe she was born in Bethnal Green in 1871. They had the following children all registered under the surname Schemensky:

Hermione Mary, b. 1896 Bethal Green
William R., b. 1899 Richmond, Surrey
Margaret Julia, b. 1901 St. George in the East

There were later children.

There is a suggestion that the family changed the name to Williams.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Justin

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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 October 08 10:11 GMT (UK) »
1901 - RG13/309; Folio: 104; Page: 52 - St George in the East, London
60, St George Street


William Schemesky 31 Head  Beer House Keeper (own a/c) Naturlised British Subject  (born abroad)
Julia Schemesky 28  Wife England
Hermine Schemesky 5 dau do
William Schemesky 2  son do

Mary Burns 22  Servant England   (is this Julias sister perchance ? )


quite a lot of (East) European Nationals in that street
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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 October 08 10:14 GMT (UK) »
cant see William in 1891 - do u want Julia's origins tracked ?
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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 October 08 10:29 GMT (UK) »
William Schemensky was apparently still selling beer in the East End in 1910:

http://londonpublichouse.com/BeerRetailers1910/1910BeerRetailers-S1.shtml

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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 October 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »
That's fantastic! Why didn't I think of omitting the 'n'?

Would you mind tracking Julia, pls?

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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 October 08 11:14 GMT (UK) »
not as easy as I'd hoped, given their non-specific PoBs .... but based on the assumption that the Mary Burns in 1901 is Julia's sister, this family is a candidate ... altho the age gap of Julia to Mary isnt quite right ...

Otherwise, get the Marriage Cert (Julia and William, West Ham) and reveal her fathers name ...


1881 - RG11/178; Folio: 11; Page: 15 - St Pancras
6 or 7 Mary Place


All declare they are born in St Pancras
 
Patrick Burns 36  Head
Julia Burns 36 Wife
Ellen Burns 11    dau
Julia Burns 6  dau
William Burns 4 son
Mary Ann Burns 2  dau


I had a quick look in 1891 - will do so again to see if Mary is still with the same parents




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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 October 08 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Ah, there is a Julia born Bethnal Green, with a younger sister Mary, but an 8 year age gap ... always assuming the the 1901 Mary isnt just a coincidence ...

1881 - RG11/448; Folio: 13; Page: 20 - St Botolph Without Aldgate
6, Cartwright Square



assume you have access - parents are Daniel ( a Fish Porter) & Margaret.


Recommend you get the Marriage Cert ....
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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 October 08 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank's for looking.

The marriage cert has been ordered by the person I'm trying to help.

Just found the same match on familysearch:

RG11 0448/13

66 Cartwright Sq.

Daniel Burns, 38, Aldgate, fish porter
Margeret ", 36, Poplar
Margaret, dau., 11, Bethnal Green
Julia ", dau., 9, Bethnal Green
Mary Ann ", dau., 1, Aldgate
Daniel ", son, 7m, Aldgate

Cheers,

Justin

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Re: 1891/1901 look-up pls SCHEMENSKY
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 March 09 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Justin

I am researching the Schemenskys for a friend whose maiden surname was Williams.  One of William and Julia Schmensky's sons was her grandfather and changed his name to Williams. 

Would love to swap info.

Susan