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Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« on: Friday 31 October 08 15:22 GMT (UK) »
I would be grateful if anyone could throw any light as to who Emma was-no  one in the family seems to know and my searches haven't thrown anything up.William was b1851 in North Crawley and Emma was also born in North Crawley.The 1881 Census shows them as marriedwith 5 children and living in North Crawley.The eldest child was b 1872.
Any help would be greatly appreciaated
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Re: Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Nothing obvious on FreeBMD  - only possible is a William Clare in 1869 - but only one bride transcribed.

Getting a birth cert for one of the children will be the best thing, it will give Emma's maiden name.
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Re: Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Regarding son John (3 yr old John E. in 1881), this seems to be the birth registration:

John Ellis CLARE Dec 1877 Newport Pagnell 3a 591.

I wonder whether the Ellis might be a clue to Emma's maiden name?

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:

Dec 1870   

CLARE John   
ELLIS Emma

Newport Pagnell  3a 805

I wonder whether this is William John Clare using only his middle name for some reason?

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Birth:

Emma ELLIS Jun 1852 Newport Pagnell 3a 426

1861 census shows her in North Crawley aged 8 as a child of James and Renor:
RG9/872/90/4

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 October 08 15:53 GMT (UK) »
William John Clare does seem to have been known as "John" before marriage - probably because with his father being William it would have been too confusing otherwise.  The Clare family, including 9 yr old "John", was in North Crawley in 1861:  RG9/872/80/15.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marriage :William J Clare to Emma c1870
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 October 08 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Anna-this is certainly the icing on the cake as far as this part of the family goes.
Best wishes
Dave
Pattinson,Godfordson in Wales &Durham
Evison,Patchett & Holmes in Lincolnshire
Currie in Dumfrieshire
Clare and Inwood in Bucks