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James Wilson, Battersea
« on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:15 GMT (UK) »
I wonder can anyone help me?  My great grandmother Mabel Sophie Fanny Wilson, came from a fairground family, I have found mention of her and her family on the 1901 census when they were living in Gurlings Yard in Battersea.  She married Frank Fisher in Battersea in 1908, I don't think he was a traveller. I have her brother's name Charles Wilson (who nobody in the family can remember) and her mother's Christian name Sarah, but no maiden name.  I know there is no birth certificate for Mabel as there was confusion when her 100th birthday was (she lived to be 103).  She told me when I was a child, her mother used to swing weights attached to her long hair around her head and it eventually crippled her, I've also been told she was a money lender for women.  I have an old photo of James and Sarah, which shows him wearing a sash which says 'Pride of Battersea'.  Frank Fisher died in 1927, Mabel struck up a relationship with Thomas Penfold which resulted in a child being born.  Considering she came from a travelling family, once she married she lived her whole life within a mile of Gurlings yard!

I am completely stuck on this branch of the family and am hoping someone knows something!

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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

16yr old Thomas Penfold was also living at Gurlings Yard in 1901.  He was the son of Christopher & Patience.

There are also 2 other Penfold families in Gurlings Yard - Robert & Mary and  James & Mary Ann.  On earlier pages - Gurlings Yard is described as "caravans and barns"
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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Blimey that was quick!  ;D  I saw the Penfold entries and guessed Thomas Penfold was my gran's Thomas.


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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:40 GMT (UK) »
This is the family in 1891 in Islington Highbury transcribed as Wilton and Willson

James Wilson 45 hawker birthplace n/k
Sarah 40 birthplace n/k
James 12 b Whitechapel
Charles 6 b Brentford M'sex
Mabel 3 months b Holloway London
Angelina Anthony 9 nurse child b Notting Hill
RG12 piece 178 folio 56 page 36
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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for that, I've been looking for weeks and getting nowhere.  :)

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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 December 08 17:56 GMT (UK) »
i hope this thread continues.have a look debs usa.our chris penfold is there and his wife patience.i wander if we might connect somehow?
birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country

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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 December 08 18:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cathayb,

             Have you got Thomas Penfold in 1891?

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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 December 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »
i have never looked for him?i was always more intersted in christopher as hes one of mine.
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Re: James Wilson, Battersea
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 December 08 18:18 GMT (UK) »


Ok here he is in 1891 ;D
    RG12 / 431 / 125 / 47

Christopher Penfold head age 48 b Abingdon Berkshire, occ hawker
Patience wife age 45 b Brighton, occ hawker
Henry son age 19 b b Devonshire, occ hawker
Thomas dau ???age 6 b Battersea
Charlotte age 2 b Battersea

Address 2 Gurlings Yard, Battersea

 Checked original and Thomas is down as daughter ???

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