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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 25 July 09 14:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

If your wife's family is descended from Hugh and Alicia then we must be related in some way at least!


I have not done much on the Marsden's for a long time, got to the point where I had done the easy parts and was too far away to do any more. I collaborated with some other people and what I had I passed along so it is part of this family tree now
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=winster

I'll pm my email to you as I am not on rootschat very often just now  :)
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 22 December 21 14:16 GMT (UK) »
I'm so glad I googled "Oxclose" - I'm just looking at the Marsden family and a birth record from Baslow which gives the residence as Oxclose. I'm going to follow up what people have said in this thread and see if we are the same family.
Far too many surnames to read through!
Main lines are:-
Johnson in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Cumberland.
Leachman in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.
Crickmore in Yorkshire, Norfolk and Ireland.
Shearer in Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire

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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #20 on: Monday 27 December 21 14:00 GMT (UK) »
I'm so glad I googled "Oxclose" - I'm just looking at the Marsden family and a birth record from Baslow which gives the residence as Oxclose. I'm going to follow up what people have said in this thread and see if we are the same family.

Bound to be related in some way!
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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #21 on: Monday 27 December 21 15:32 GMT (UK) »
I have a Robert Marsden who married in 1703. At a pinch he could have been born 1689. It would have been legal to marry but "nobbut just!" as we say in Yorkshire ...
Far too many surnames to read through!
Main lines are:-
Johnson in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Cumberland.
Leachman in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.
Crickmore in Yorkshire, Norfolk and Ireland.
Shearer in Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire


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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #22 on: Monday 27 December 21 17:41 GMT (UK) »
I have a Robert Marsden who married in 1703. At a pinch he could have been born 1689. It would have been legal to marry but "nobbut just!" as we say in Yorkshire ...
:-)

This is the 1689 one?
1689 Robert son of Edmund Marston de Oxclose bp 10 July

There is an earlier one too
1679 Robert son of Robert Marstin of Oxclose bp 21 Sept

He would be a better age I think.

Working out connections in that bit of the Marsden tree is a bit tricky to say the least :-) There is an attempt to make sense of it here https://baslowhistory.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/marsden.pdf  I  don't know who the person behind it is, but at least it gives some idea of the scope!

I think that there were two brothers (Edmund and Robert) living at Oxclose and baptising children with similar names. I'd forgotten how tricky it was!
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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 11:17 GMT (UK) »
@Gardener: thank you so much!
I've found my Robert on the tree you sent, the one born in 1679. He is the son of Robert at Higher House on their tree. The one I was looking at before was, as you say, the son of Edmund.
By the way, the https://baslowhistory.co.uk/ website is fascinating! Very interesting indeed, worth a look. I've emailed the owner, David Dalrymple-Smith.
Their tree shows five of the eight children I have for Robert Marsden by his first wife Elizabeth . The tree also shows a second wife Hannah, which is interesting. I hadn't picked up on that.
My ancestor is Joseph, b 1715/6. Where do you fit in?

Far too many surnames to read through!
Main lines are:-
Johnson in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Cumberland.
Leachman in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.
Crickmore in Yorkshire, Norfolk and Ireland.
Shearer in Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire

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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi "cousin"!
So you are descended from Robert at Higher House, and I'm from his brother Edmund at Lower House.

My gt-grandmother was Ellen Marsden, and no fewer than three of her grandparents were Marsdens - her two grandfathers were cousins, descended from John Marsden (and Alice). One of her grandmothers was also descended from John and Alice, but she was a more distant cousin.
John Marsden appears on that online tree as born 1676 and living at Birchover.
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Re: Ox Close, in the Parish of Bakewell. Help please!
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 30 December 21 13:20 GMT (UK) »
So the Marsdens are one of your main lines. My two Derbyshire grandparents are Leachman and Johnson. My first Marsden is a five-times-great-grandmother Sarah, ancestor of the Johnsons.
One day I'm going to do a tour of Derbyshire and visit all these places. I know Chesterfield and I love Chatsworth but Birchover is now added to the list!
Far too many surnames to read through!
Main lines are:-
Johnson in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk and Cumberland.
Leachman in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.
Crickmore in Yorkshire, Norfolk and Ireland.
Shearer in Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire