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Offline claudia99

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Ukraine - tracing records
« on: Thursday 03 February 05 15:57 GMT (UK) »
My father in law was born in Ukraine in 1929.
Just wondering we have the actual date and place of birth -  what would be the chances of getting any type of birth record?
What information would I need to get the birth record if not?
Thanks for any help on this!
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Fagan - Guernsey (1807), Wrexham (census 1841-1871), then Barton upon Irwell from around 1873

Fildes - Manchester, Chester, Liverpool, Chorlton, Ashton, Salford (descended from Mary Pritchard and William Fildes, Sir Samuel Luke's grandparents)

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Re: Ukraine - tracing records
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 February 05 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear claudia99

I do not have any Ukranian ancestors but I have found some useful links which may give you more insight into Ukranian research. I hope it helps you

Archives in Ukraine
http://www.huri.harvard.edu/abb_grimsted/

OBLASTS AND RAIONS IN UKRAINE
http://www.lemko.org/genealogy/oblasts.html

TOWNS AND REPOSITORIES IN UKRAINE
http://www.rtrfoundation.org/archdta6.html

OBTAINING DOCUMENTS FROM UKRAINE
http://www.ukremb.com/consular/documents.html

You could always subscribe to some useful mailing lists for information:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-ukr.html

http://www.infoukes.com/lists/

http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/UKR/UKR-GENSEARCH.html

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukrwgw/index2.htm



Regards Jen


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Re: Ukraine - tracing records
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 February 05 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jen.
Will get right on to it!
ALL CENSUS INFORMATION CONTAINED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Fagan - Guernsey (1807), Wrexham (census 1841-1871), then Barton upon Irwell from around 1873

Fildes - Manchester, Chester, Liverpool, Chorlton, Ashton, Salford (descended from Mary Pritchard and William Fildes, Sir Samuel Luke's grandparents)

Speakman - Manchester and Salford

Bridge - Manchester (initially Ardwick) and Salford

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Re: Ukraine - tracing records
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 February 05 17:53 GMT (UK) »
I have also been trying in vain to get Ukrainian birth records.  I have dates of my great grandparents birth and marriage but it is very hard to get a copy.  Lessons I have been learned that I thought I might share-

Due to lack of money for many archives, always send a donation and International Reply coupons.  Then you will get some sort of response.  A yes or no.

Send any queries in the native language.  I have a person who has translates into Russian for me.  You will always get your reply in the native language (then I ask to get the reply translated).

Things take a LONG time.  Many months for me to get any reply form the local  and state archives.  Archives close in the month of August.

I have not had much luck, so I think I am going to try and hire a researcher to do the work.  May be a big money saver in the long run.

Good luck.  Let me know if you find the records you are looking for!!
-Kristin
George William Burke.. my missing link!! son of Wm Burke & Mary Jane Stone/Morris
Shields & Milner- Patrington  & Bilton, Yorkshire<br />Nixon & Bowers - Appleby, Broughton & Messingham, Lincolnshire<br />Hancock &Tyson- Tetford, Skendleby & Spilsby, Lincolnshire<br />Cochrane- Darvel, Loudon, Ayrshire<br />Yuill, Hardie- Paisley, Renfrewshire<br />Kennedy, Gardener & Clelland- Glasgow, Lanarkshire & Paisley, Renfrewshire<br /><br />Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchive


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Re: Ukraine - tracing records
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 February 05 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kristin
I sort of knew it would be difficult and am expecting long waits along the way.
Interesting about the "donation" though, would never have thought of that.
I was also considering a researcher.
Will let you know of any outcome!
ALL CENSUS INFORMATION CONTAINED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Fagan - Guernsey (1807), Wrexham (census 1841-1871), then Barton upon Irwell from around 1873

Fildes - Manchester, Chester, Liverpool, Chorlton, Ashton, Salford (descended from Mary Pritchard and William Fildes, Sir Samuel Luke's grandparents)

Speakman - Manchester and Salford

Bridge - Manchester (initially Ardwick) and Salford

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Re: Ukraine - tracing records
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 February 05 13:49 GMT (UK) »
I have much experience in Ukraine. If you would like to post such known facts as name, ethnicity, religion and especially place within the country, I'll be better able to advise.

I could also recommend a reliable Ukrainian researcher, but for the west of the country only.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 April 05 22:10 BST (UK) »
I married the son of a Ukie and a Bella Russ.  When I started tracing my family, I thought in unfair on my worst half, sorry better half, that I had hundreds of relations on a very large section of wallpaper and he only had his sister, mum and dad two uncles and four grandparents that were known.

So 27 years later we have communicated with mums sisters in Bella Russ and got a few cousins but the Ukie side remains a mystery.

In the beginning I tried the IGI for the Ukraine but found that it was full of Germans, French and English names, no or very, very few Ukie names.

We did contact a worldwide organisation many years ago with help in getting  mum in law's birth certificate, she is classed a displaced person and her country and the neighbouring country both say the other has the info - what a palava. We do get an update on a regular basis, annually, saying that they are still looking, but if we contact them her request may go further down the pile instead of up !!

So I've come to the conclusion, I should have not watched Taras Bulba when I was young , I may not have married an English Ukie and would not have had to bypass my part of my childrens heritage.

Saying that any one  with Ukie connections know 'Ukie time' - if it says start at 4pm it may be going by 5ish or 6is, so things are slower.

But they do know how to organise a good wedding, John's Day or any other day they wish to have.

On a serious note, when communication with  establishments either by mail or email, do try to send your request in the native word.  There are translator programs on the internet that are very good and easy to use, if you have no one who can translate for you.

But most of all be very patient

Carol Sklinar nee Wilkinson
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