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Wolstanton records
« on: Thursday 13 November 08 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help with the parents of Elsie May Ford born 1893 Wolstanton. Also Ida Mary Scott born about 1905 also I believe Wolstanton, they were related, cousins I think.

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Frimston Flint
Roberts Hawarden, Whitby
Iball Bistre, Hawarden
Ford Staffordshire
Scott Staffordshire
Wilkinson Cheshire

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 November 08 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Where did your Elsie May Ford marry?

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 November 08 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi William,

Elsie May Ford married Edward Roberts of Hawarden Flintshire in Wolstanton Staffs around 1917 - 1919. Ida Mary Scott was second wife to Edward however they married in Hawarden I think in the 1930's. Elsie and Ida are related 1st or 2nd cousins I think.

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Gaynor
Frimston Flint
Roberts Hawarden, Whitby
Iball Bistre, Hawarden
Ford Staffordshire
Scott Staffordshire
Wilkinson Cheshire

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 November 08 10:00 GMT (UK) »
I did a bit of searching for Marriages if Scott/Ford etc on Staffordshire BMD and Ancestry last night but I didn't find any.Elsie M Ford married Edward Roberts at Chesterton Holy Trinity in 1919 according to Staffordshire BMD.According to North Wales BMD Ida married Edward Roberts in 1931 in what is described as a Hawarden Civil Marriage.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 November 08 10:03 GMT (UK) »
William,

thanks very much for your kind help. Presumably the next step is obtaining copies of their marriage certificates.

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Gaynor
Frimston Flint
Roberts Hawarden, Whitby
Iball Bistre, Hawarden
Ford Staffordshire
Scott Staffordshire
Wilkinson Cheshire

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 November 08 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Free BMD shows the GRO reference for the Ford/Roberts Marriage as Volume 6b,Page 222.The Marriage took place in the Wolstanton District in the April Quarter of 1919.I found this Marriage on Free BMD on Ancestry but because of ongoing problems on the Ancestry Site in accessing the GRO indexes I am unable to come up with the Scott/Roberts reference.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 November 08 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Gaynor
Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

There is this possible marriage:

Jun Quarter 1919
Wolstanton Vol 6b Page 222

Roberts Edward = Elsie M Ford

The certificate will give you their ages, Robert's occupation, fathers' names and occupations, and their addresses at the time of marriage.

Two possible births in Staffordshire:

June Quarter 1893
FORD Elsie May, Lichfield Vol 6b Page 513
FORD Elsie May, Wolstanton Vol 6b Page 101

1901 Census

RG13 Piece 3513 Folio 136 Page 43
29 Joseph Street, Widnes, Lancashire
William H FORD Head 36 Machine Maker & ?Feller b Warwickshire Longford Coventry
Clara FORD Wife 39 b Derbyshire Whittington
Elsie M FORD Dau 8 b Staffs, Kings Hill ?Wedenbury
Charles I FORD Son 6 b Worcester Stourbridge

or

RG13 Piece 2654 Folio 195 Page 29
51 James Place, Ogley Hay, Brownhills, Lichfield, Staffs
Moses FORD Head 40 Coal Miner Loader b Staffs Bilston
Sarah FORD Wife 46 b Staffs Bilston
Moses FORD Son 12 b Staffs Brownhills
Elsie FORD Dau 8 b Staffs Brownhills
Samuel FORD Son 6 b Staffs Brownhills

RG13 Piece 2651 Folio 9 Page 9
Dent Street, Fazeley, Tamworth, Staffs
George FORD Head 48 Engineer's Pattern Maker b Staffs Chesterton
Mary FORD Wife 44 b Staffs Chesterton
Ethel FORD Dau 18 b Staffs Chesterton
George FORD Son 14 Engineer's Pattern Maker b Staffs Chesterton
Elsie FORD Dau 7 b Staffs Chesterton

The marriage certificate will hopefully show you which family to follow up and which birth certificate to go for!

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Gaie
Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 November 08 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Given that Chesterton would be in the Wolstanton District Gaie,I would favour the last entry you gave.However it could be mere speculation until Gaynor has the Marriage Certificate for Elsie May.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Wolstanton records
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 November 08 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Yep, I'd go along with that, William!  The marriage certificate is your starting point, Gaynor.

You can order them here, just in case you haven't done it before:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Click "Yes" when you're asked if you have the references, and put in the quarter, year, reg district, Vol and Page numbers.  They cost £7 if you have the references.

Do let us know how you get on.

Kind regards
Gaie
Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE