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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 21 August 18 02:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the additional information, wee Hugh.  I would like to find out more about this David Hill as well.  I do not belong to any paid genealogical sites, but I will see what I can find.  One never knows what can turn up.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #82 on: Saturday 06 July 19 10:05 BST (UK) »
John Moore Killen, son of Samuel Killen and Mary Jane Shaw, m. 1887 to Lizzie McNeill, dau of William Walsh McNeill.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #83 on: Saturday 06 July 19 12:38 BST (UK) »

John Moore Killen, son of Samuel Killen and Mary Jane Shaw, m. 1887 to Lizzie McNeill, dau of William Walsh McNeill.


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Marriage: 27th April 1887
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10800/5938869.pdf

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 07 July 19 15:21 BST (UK) »
Is this the same William Walsh McNeill (solicitor) who died in 1845 or a later one?


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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #85 on: Monday 08 July 19 00:04 BST (UK) »
Gilby, this is a post I made long ago on genforum concerning this family.  My guess is that  it would be the second William Walsh McNeill born c. 1835, who married Martha Neill.  See below:

1. John McNeill, solicitor, married Catherine Walsh.
2. William Walsh McNeill, d. 1845; m. 1822 Ann Hill, dau of George and Mary Hill of Larne.
3. George Hill McNeill, solicitor; m. 1855 Mary Hudson McNeill, dau of John McNeill, solicitor, of Glenone, Londonderry.
3. Catherine McNeill, b. 1827 m. 1 1852 to J. McNeill, solicitor; m. next to the Rev. John Moore
3. Mary McNeill, b. 1829.
3. John McNeill, b. 1830; m. Mary Jane Hodges
4. George Hill McNeill, b. 1868
4. Elliott McNeill,b. Jan. 25, 1870, d. 1922; m. 1897 Maud Louisa Fry, dau of William Storrs Fry and Anne Jane Lepper
5. Douglas Sidney Elliott McNeill, b.abt. 1898
5. Sybil Ethel McNeill, b. abt. 1901
5. John Macauley McNeill, b. abt. 1903; m. 1929 Thirza Norine Crowe, dau of Dr. George E. Crowe of Didsbury, Manchester(present at their wedding were Sybil McNeill, Helen McNeill, Frank Crowe, and ? Crowe, sister).
4. John Hill Trevor McNeill,barrister, m. Esther Frances Duffey, dau of Dr. Sir George Duffey(she m. 2 John Haltoran Bennett of Ballincurra, Co. Cork).
5. Dorothy Trevor McNeill, b. abt. 1904; 1937 engaged to Timothy Roberts West, M.A., Headmaster of Midleton College, Co. Cork.
6. Dr. Timothy Trevor West, Irish Senator
6. John West
6. Alexander West
3. Ann McNeill, b. abt. 1833
3. William Walsh McNeill, b. 1835; m. Martha Neill
4. Jane McNeill, b. 1871
4. George Hill McNeill, b. 1873
4. Mary Georgina McNeill
3. Eliza Emerson McNeill, b. 1837
3. Jane Hill McNeill, b. 1838
3. Harriet Macaulay McNeill, b. 1844.

Elliott McNeill died? buried? 19 March 1922 aat Dean's Grange Cemetery. Present at funeral were the following:

John M. McNeill
Mrs Anderson, sister

Lewis A. Fry, Ray Fry, Leslie Williamson and Aubrey Marriott, his brothers-in-law

Mrs Manders and Mrs R. Fry, sisters-in-law
Miss K. Manders, niece



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1. John Hill Trevor McNeill m. Esther Duffey

2. Dorothy Trevor McNeill m. 1937 Timothy Roberts West, Headmaster of Midleton College, Co. Cork

3. Dr. Timothy Trevor West, Irish Senator

3. John West

3. Alexander West
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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #86 on: Thursday 11 July 19 02:54 BST (UK) »
Just to confirm, I checked the 2nd William Walsh McNeill's date of marriage:

Feb. 7, 1860 at St. Thomas's Church, Dublin
William Walsh McNeill, 3rd son of the late William Walsh McNeill, married Martha,
only daughter of the late Robert Neill, Esq, of Carincastle, Co. Antrim.

This William is undoubtedly the father of Lizzie, wife of Dr. John Moore Killen.

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #87 on: Thursday 11 July 19 16:20 BST (UK) »
Surely that should be Cairncastle?
Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #88 on: Friday 12 July 19 00:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks, wee Hugh, for the spelling correction.  As for the Killen family in question, it can be found in both the 1901 and 1911 censuses. 

1911--23 High Street, Carrickfergus
Dr. Samuel Killen, aged 66, married to Mary
Their children:
Samuel John Killen, 32, doctor
James Brice Killen, 25, engineer
Mary Jane Killen [ Mary Jane Shaw Killen later married to Norman Hay Wallace, probable son of Hugh Wallace of Dublin.  Hugh was a coal company director]
Elizabeth Hay Owens Killen, 21
Son Thomas, 31, [staying with his uncle and aunt, Dr. John Moore Killen who was living at 60 Main Street Larne with his wife, Lizzie McNeill.]  Thomas Killen was also a doctor.
Also of interest was the fact that Dr. Samuel Killen's housekeeper was Margaret Bell McAuley, aged 73 in 1911.

Dr. John Moore Killen and Lizzie McNeill had at least two children,
Ruth Killen b. abt. 1889 and Norah born 1893/1894.

Other Killens that may be of interest:

Esther Killen, aged 20,, dau of William Killen, shopkeeper, Grange of Doagh, m. 1872  at Kilbride Presbyterian Church to James Gilmore, aged 21, son of John Gilmore, shoemaker, of ?Ballybanagh?
Witnesses:  Wilson McKee and Eliza Kirk.

Sarah Blair Killen of ?? St. Nicholas Parish of Town of Carrickfergus, dau of William Killen, farmer, married July 1870 to William John M'Fall, son of Andrew M'Fall, tailor.
Witnesses:  Andrew M'Aulley and Patrick M'Fall


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Re: Hill family of Larne, Hillmount and Ballymena
« Reply #89 on: Saturday 13 July 19 11:49 BST (UK) »
From the will of John Tweed of Ballycoose, Cairncastle, dated 1849:

And whereas I have been appointed guardian of Miss Martha Neill daughter of the late Robert Neill of Cairncastle and have acted for some time in that capacity I hereby nominate and appoint the said James Alexander and Samuel Hunter guardians of the said Martha Neill in the event of my dying before she becomes 21 years of age.

(PRONI D300/1/5/238)