Hannah Eleanora Motley nee Maddison

[jorose]

The NAA Recordsearch has got Alfred James Maddison's WWI papers, they mention his mother but not any other relatives.

Where did Hannah die and where is she buried? Perhaps her husband and Ruby are also there with her.

[sparrett]

Hi,

MOTLEY Charles Henry
Father Unknown  Mother UNKNOWN
Death Plac: Armadale   64 years   1966  Reg# 1181

This Charles...

Charles Motley is interred at Springvale Crem/Cem
21/1/1966
Also there is Elizabeth Emma  Motley. 3/4/1962
who may be a relative.

Sue

[cando]

Death

MOTLEY Elizabeth Emma
Father Oram William  Mother UNKNOWN
At   Melbourne   85 years   1962  Reg# 6034

Cando

[cando]

Deaths in SA

MOTLEY Charles
16 Jan 1934
60 years  Status Married  No relative noted
Residence Mitcham Park  Death Place Springbank
Ref Ade I 555/345
Symbol I Indefinite Death Date Registered such as about 16 Jan 1934

MOTLEY Ruby Eleanor Ann
31 Jul 1951  51 years  Status Single
Residence Eastwood  Death Place Eastwood
Ref Nor H 771/4435
Symbol H indicates Ruby died in a hospital or place of care. 

MOTLEY Hannah Eleanora
18 Sep1965  86 years  Status Widow 
Relative Charles Henry MOTLEY [Deceased Husband]
Residence Norwood  Death Place Northfield
Ref PtA H 997/6381

Livia you can purchase transcriptions of bdm certificates from http://www.saghs.org.au
for $15  and you should get the following information.

1908-1947
    * Date and Place of Death
    * Name
    * Sex
    * Age
    * Occupation
    * Usual Residence
    * Birthplace
    * Length of Residence in Commonwealth
    * Age at Marriage
    * Number of Issue Living and Deceased
    * Cause of Death
    * Place of Death
    * Informant
1948-1967
As for 1908-1947 with the addition of
    * Place of Burial

I wonder if Ruby died at Glenside Hospital.

Cheers
Cando

[livia]

Again, thank you all for your help. Word in the family was that Charles Motley died young of an alcohol-related problem - death date of 1934 suggests that he wasn't all that young, but 'I' with the death registration might fit with his reputation of being disreputable - poor man. I should be able to find out where Hannah is buried and check to see if Ruby ended up with her - good idea, thanks. In 1951, when Ruby died, Glenside hospital was called Parkside. It was and is a psychiatric hospital; the name was changed in the 1960s when the surrounding high wall was demolished in an effort to present a less stigmatised image. A death cert for Ruby is probably the way to go.
Gratefully
Livia

[tropicalj]

I  have checked  the online access through A........y
 to Electoral  Rolls and  neither Charles Henry or his brother Royston James appear in Victoria or NSW up to 1936.

interesting  to  note  the death of Alfred MAddison in 1934, do you  have an actual date of death please?
Jenn

[cando]

In 1951, when Ruby died, Glenside hospital was called Parkside. It was and is a psychiatric hospital; the name was changed in the 1960s when the surrounding high wall was demolished in an effort to present a less stigmatised image. A death cert for Ruby is probably the way to go.
Gratefully
Livia

Remember the high wall and its demolition   It was known as the Parkside Lunatic Asylum [1870-1913]. The name was then changed to the Parkside Mental Hospital [1913-1967] and finally in 1967 to the Glenside Hospital.

I wonder if there was an inquest in Charle's death...  There is an index to SA inquests in a book listed on
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2169978

Cheers
Cando

[livia]

Thanks very much for those Motley look-ups, and I will get onto the inquests link. Alfred James Maddison died 29 April 1934. I know a reasonable amount about him; he was my maternal grandfather and I have his war service record. I figure if I can find more Motley information and possibly some Motley descendents I may get some clues about Hannah who appears to have been cut off from Alfred's family after Alfred's death.
Livia

[Hensy]

Just a quick note. My mother Beryl Alchin (Maddison) is 92 next month and is the daughter of Alfred James Maddison, son of Hannah Eleanora Motley nee Maddison. She is the only one of her family still alive today, and is in a nursing home in Adelaide, South Australia, still very much 'with it'.

I am Beryl's youngest daughter, and my sister and I have a great interest in looking into mum's family. My sister can remember going with Mum to meet Hannah many years ago when she lived at Norwood (? in her daughter's house). Today I spoke with a Peter Motley, son of Geof Motley (a famous Port Adelaide football family) who also knows a bit of the family history. I know Mum's father (Alfred) was a mad Port fan, so that all makes sense because he lived in the Port Adelaide area.

From what we know, and from what we have gleaned from my Mum, it was Hannah who cut herself off from the family once Alfred (her son) died, not the Maddison family cutting her off.

I hope we can hear further from you.