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Ansell family. London, England
« on: Saturday 22 November 08 08:57 GMT (UK) »
Dear Researcher
Emily Sarah ANSELL born in London, Middlesex, England was married to John Zachariah BIDDLE from Somerby Leicestershire
on 7th August 1858 in ROME Italy.

I am searching for ANY family history of Emily Ansell please

She was widowed in Rome in 1872 ,returned to England and lived at 40 Redesdale Street London Middlesex with son John 19 years. At 1881 census she was 50 years old and a dressmaker. her 2 daughters Annie and Caroline also born in Rome were in England but son Henry Gerald BIDDLE was in Australia.
HALSTEAD Essex, Australia,EVERETT Essex,  BIDDLE, Leicester and Rome Italy, GRUNOW, Adolph b1858 Berlin Germany
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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 November 08 10:14 GMT (UK) »


Hi

I am not too sure if you already have any Census information on this lady, but if not....

1851 Census England Middlesex Westminster St Margaret
HO107/1480/583/25
2 St Francis Place

ANSELL
William Charles Head Marr 40 Master Wire Worker Emplying 2 men Kent Deptford
Sarah Wife Marr 39 Master Wire Worker's Wife Middlesex Finchely
Albert Son Unmarr 20 Wire Worker Middlesex Finchley
Edwin Son Unmarr 19 Wire Worker MIddlesex Finchley
Emily Sarah Dau Unmarr 16 At Home Middlesex St Pancras
Eliza Victoria Dau Unmarr 14 Scholar Middlesex St Pancras
Henry Jabez Son Unmarr 8 Scholar Surrey Pocktham
Louisa Charlotte Dau Unmarr 5 Scholar Surrey Pocktham
Arthur James Son Unmarr 3 Scholar Middlesex Hammersmith
Reuben Charles Son Unmarr 2 At Home Middlesex Hammersmith

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Karenlee

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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 November 08 10:34 GMT (UK) »


Here they are again...

1861 Census England Middlesex Westminster St John the Evangelist
RG9/48/125/15
39 Great London Road

ANSELL
William Charles Head Marr 50 Music Wire Worker Kent Deptford
Sarah Wife Marr 49 Middlesex Finchley
Louisa Dau Unmarr 16 Surrey Peckham
Henry Son Unmarr 18 Music Wire Worker Surrey Peckham
Arthur Son Unmarr 13 Middlesex Hammersmith
Reuben Son Unmarr 12 Middlesex Hammersmmith
Annetta Dau Unmarr 8 Middlesex Westminster

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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 November 08 10:42 GMT (UK) »


From the IGI

William Charles ANSELL bapt 16 Dec 1810 St Nicholas Deptford London UK

Father = John ANSELL
Mother = Mary

Not seeing a marriage for William Charles and Sarah as yet.

Baptisms for their children on the IGI as well...

Emily Sarah ANSELL bapt 20 July 1834 Old Church St Pancras

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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 November 08 10:56 GMT (UK) »


By 1871 William is widowed and living 53 Wood Street St John the Evangelist St John Westminster.  Also in the house are his son in law Henry George SKERRETT, a Pianoforte Tuner, husband of Agnes Annette, and their daughter Eliza Sarah Emily.  Reuben Charles is now a Pianoforte Regulator and married to Emily Charlotte.

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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 November 08 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Dear Karenlee
Thank you very much for  researching this Ansell family
All the help is much appreciated

Emily Sarah Ansell went to ROME Italy and married John Zachariah BIDDLE ,a livery stable keeper from Somerby Leicestershire in 1858

I wondered if Emily ANSELL was a servant attached to a wealthy English Family in Rome at that time

How would I find this information? 
Christine Edwards
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HALSTEAD Essex, Australia,EVERETT Essex,  BIDDLE, Leicester and Rome Italy, GRUNOW, Adolph b1858 Berlin Germany
Soratapassenger on  ship to Australia 1800 , PICKUP Lanc, NICOL Sct, Joseph Smith and Margaret Holmes Convicts to Australia 2nd fleet and 3rd fleet

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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 November 08 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Where did you get their marriage from? I wonder if there might be any hints there (her address at marriage, who witnessed the marriage, etc).

I would imagine your guess about her job is correct.  She was probably working for someone in London as a domestic, and the lady of the house took a liking to her and decided to take her along when they went to Rome.
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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 01:42 GMT (UK) »
 This note was the only reference    to the marriage of 
 ANSELL and BIDDLE in Rome

'Emily Sarah ANSELL married John Zachariah BIDDLE   in The Chapel of the British Congregation at Rome ,Italy according to the rites and ceremonies of the united Church of England and Ireland on the Saturday this 7.8.1858
By me Edward Seymour Stocker Assistant Chaplain
In the presence of Henry and Elizabeth SMITH "

I was given this note handwritten from my Aunt (BIDDLE) now dec
I do not have a documented Marriage certificate but I do have a document of John Zachariah BIDDLE's death in Rome 1872
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HALSTEAD Essex, Australia,EVERETT Essex,  BIDDLE, Leicester and Rome Italy, GRUNOW, Adolph b1858 Berlin Germany
Soratapassenger on  ship to Australia 1800 , PICKUP Lanc, NICOL Sct, Joseph Smith and Margaret Holmes Convicts to Australia 2nd fleet and 3rd fleet

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Re: Ansell family. London, England
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 December 08 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Turramurra, I have Henry Jabez Ansell in my family tree.  Is he your relation?  Anzac