Wisdom Smith - Yet again!

[babygirl101]

I'm sure we've just about done the Wisdom Smith line to death, but here goes with another mystery:-

Wisdom Smith b. around 1812 who married Hannah, then Eliza Boswell, had a son, also named Wisdom in around 1834.

He then married Priscilla Bagley in 1860 in Headington, Oxfordshire - has anyone found either of them on a census return. Having spent the last few hours searching for both or either of them,  I can't find them - please can someone help!!!!.

BG   

Ps - Whilst looking for Boswells on the Notts FHS, I came across the marriage record  for Wisdom Smith to Eliza Boswell in case anyone hasn't already got it - 6.6.1831, South Leverton, near Retford, Nottinghamshire.

 

[jamajo]

Hi BG,

  Hope this works    See if it helps as i found this in 1861

   http://www.bellis.me.uk/genealogy/


 
Surname Forename   Age Sex Rel to head Born
SMITH Wisdom 28 <1833> M Head OXF, Shorthampton
SMITH Wisdom 9 <1852> M Son OXF, Charlton


   Sue

[babygirl101]

Sue

That's brilliant thank you so much, they're on the 1861 census, as you say, so I'll work my way through it.  Interestingly, there's an Ocean listed, I've come across an Ocean before, but she was daughter of Charles Smith.

BG 

[deb usa]

Hi BG and Sue

Hopefully these christenings may help us;

Jemima Smith d/o Wisdom Smith and Priscilla Bagley
20 MAY 1860   Headington Quarry, Oxford
IGI submitted

not sure of these as they are children born prior to Wisdom and Prscilla's marriage in 1860 but confirms Sue's find Of Wisdom snr and jnr together:

IGI Extracted;
Wisdom Smith s/o Wisdom and Prscilla
24 DEC 1854   Charlton On Otmoor, Oxford
 

IGI extracted;
Lucretia Smith d/o Wisdom and Priscilla
21 APR 1852   Charlton On Otmoor, Oxford

I'm assuming Lucretia and Jemima are with mum, Priscilla, in 1861 ...will have a look around

deb
 

[deb usa]

hi again

found this in 1861

Is this a different Wisdom and Priscilla ...they are transcribed as Wesdon and precilla

1861  transcribed as Wisdow Smith
Headington Quarry
Wisdom Smith head mar 38 ag lab /Gipsey  b Short Hampton, Oxon
Precilla (sic) wife 40 hawker of basket ware b Brackley? Northamptonshire
Sampson son18 labourer b White Crop, Bucks
Ann S Smith 17  Hawker ?? Oxon
Patience smith dau 15 Hawker b Chesterton Oxon
Ocean smith dau 13 Hawker b Barton Oxon
Lucrretia (sic) Smith 11 Charlton oxon
Wisdom Smith son 9   bCharlton Oxon
Mary A Smith 4 b Quarry Oxon
Jemima Smith 1  b Quarry Oxon
/
Thomas Smith head mar labourer/Gipsey (sic) b ?? warwickshire
Mary A wife 64 hawker b Penn Bucks
/
Niconc??? Smith head unm 32 ..Of brother & Basket?   b Char?love? Oxon
Mary A Hedges? housekeeper unm 26 hawker b Colmbrook Bucks
Niconcile??Smith son 2 b Baldon Oxon
/
Ann Smith head wid 65 hawker of Baskets b headington
Alfred son 19 occ Ditto b Cheasley Berks
Rosenna dau 10 b Berks, Norton

Not sure of Niconcile ..could start with a "R" ...

deb

 

[deb usa]

Blimey ...sorry guys ...just looked  at Sue's link ... could have saved myself typing 

deb .... early here ... obviously brain cells not working 

[deb usa]

hi

1871
Headington Quarry ... same place as 1861
Wisdom Smith head 48 b lab b short Hampton, Oxon
Mary A wife 57? b Brackely, northamptonshire... Is  she Priscilla ..note POB
Jane dau 18 b Charlton
George son 16 b Charlton
Mary dau 14 b Headington
Elizabeth dau 11 b "
James Smith visitor 37 lab b Charlton
Emma Miles Visitor 30 Basketmaker b Bletchington
/
Augustine Smith mar 31 lab b Bletchington
sarah wife b Headington
Henry son 8 b "
George son 5 b "
William son 1 b "
/
Thomas Smith head wid 80 b Warwickshire, Brailes
Prudence gr dau unm 20 hawker b Oxon
charles gr son 8 months b Headington
Ann Blaim?? wid boarder 60 hawker b Baldon

Wisdom fits ... as does the older Thomas Smith b Warwickshire ...have they changed the names of the children in order to 'hide'

there are also Webbs next door as were they Webbs in 1871

ummmmm 

deb

[deb usa]

Just noticed that BG said that Wisdom was bc 1834 ,,, this Wisdom in 1861 and 1871 was bc 1823 ...the 1861 def. looks like 38 years old (if you look at original the 2 is dif. the the 3) ...I think they transcribed Widom as 28 years old in 1861 = bc 1833

ref for 1861
 RG9/890 51 29

there is also this interesting group in 1861
RG9/960 79 21

deb

[deb usa]

 

1881
Headington Quarry 
Wisdem(sic) Smith head mar 54 Sk?? maker b warwikshire, Brails 
Pasilea (sic) wife 62 hawker b Northamptonshire, Brackley
Lucratia dau unm 26 hawker headington Quarry
jemima dau 20 hawker b  ditto
Annie gr dau 7 b ditto
George gr son 4 b ditto
Ernest gr son 1 b ditto
henry gr son 1 b ditto

deb