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TOMLINSONS South Normanton COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 03 December 08 01:03 GMT (UK) »
Browsing the web today and found this information regarding the TOMLINSON family & their connection to the Bethel Church at South Normanton.
http://www.bethel-methodist-sn.co.uk/history.htm

I have Tomlinsons in my family tree from South Normanton.Can anyone add any further information about this family. The information I have gathered on this family summarised below. I believe they are connected an Charles would be my GGG grandfather.

Charles Tomlinson born 1822 Worksop (census) later residing South Normanton, Derbyshire
Possibly IGI birth 9/4/1822 Misson, Notts, Parents John Tomlinson & Elizabeth. Too many John Tomlinson & Elizabeth marriages too idenify mothers maiden name.  Not found Charles on the 1841 &1851 census.

On the Census from 1861 onwards Charles is marrried to Matilda (unknown surname)born 1837 Blackwell, Derbshire. they have two children at this time Sarah Ann aged 2yr and John (1 month). There is a Elizabeth Tomlinson widow agd 83yr at 144 Ball Hill (2doors down)  ? Parent or other relation to Charles. I can then trace the family until the 1891 census.

John Tomlinson can be traced up to 1901.
Sarah Ann Perkins  nee Tomlinson Can be traced up to 1901. These are ancestors of my grandmother, Surnames in South Normanton of interest are Page, Perkins, Tomlinson & Draycott

Thank you for any help.  Teresa


LYMBERY.  KNIGHT,  BROOKS, COCKERTON, DRAYCOTT, PAGE, TIVEY


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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 16:34 GMT (UK) »
I think Charles Tomlinson was b.c. 1832 -not 1822

1861 census has his age transcibed as 39 -image shows he is 29

1871 and 1881 ages given also put his birth year as 1832

This is a possible marriage
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Charles Tomlinson
Matilda Vardy
Sept qtr 1853
Belper
7b 643
(living in S Normanton reg district wold be Belper.)

this is possibly him in 1851
S Normanton
John Tomlinson head W 59 Nail maker Belper Derbys
Elizabeth daughter U 21 Bosden Cheshire
Charles son U 19 Nail Maker Worksop Notts
Stephen Shelton son in law 13 Brinsley Notts
HO107 123 314 28-29

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 16:45 GMT (UK) »
and this is possibly the family in 1841
Selston Notts
John Tomlinson 45 nailer No
Elizabeth 45 no
Mary 20 no
Salome 15 no
William 15 No
Elizabeth 12 No
Charles 10 yes
HO107 861 1 29 17

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Tomlinson 83 widow b Bonsall Derbys is on 1871 census -NOT 1861

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 17:08 GMT (UK) »
here is Elizabeth in 1861
Ball Hill
S Normanton
John Tomlinson Head M 69 Nail Maker and Local Methodist preacher Belper Berbys
Elizabeth wife 72 Bonsall Derbys
Elizabeth Booth Granddaughter House servant 17 Selston Notts
RG9 245 57 26

so it looks like Elizabeth could be Charles' stepmother

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 17:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a possible marriage
Jun qtr 1858
Belper
Elizabeth Smedley
John Tomlinson
7b 682

and in 1851 -this looks a possible for Elizabeth
Water lane
Wirksworth
Derbys
John Smedley head M 74 Dyer Bonsall Derbys
Elizabeth wife 64 Bonsall Derbys
HO107 2145 373 8

possibly she was widowed beteen 1851-58

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Charles' father John Tomlinson was married 3 times

firstly to Charles mother - possibly Elizabeth according to 1841 census

secondly to Lucy Shelton

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Dec qtr 1843
Basford
John Tomlinson
Lucy Shelton
Basford
15 931

John has "son in law" =stepson  Stephen Shelton with him in 1851

there is a death reg
Jun qtr 1848
Lucy Tomlinson
Mansfield
15 383

what do you think???

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 December 08 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Suzard for your hard work. John is a bit of a puzzle if he did marry three times.

I wonder if some of the marriages are other John Tomlinson's. John is a known Methodist preacher
as written on the 1861 census. Would remarriage be frowned upon within the Methodist community ?

I had noticed the mix up with Charles birthdates on the censuses and will have to look at the IGI again.

Looks like more certificates need to be orded too sort out this family.

Thanks for your help. Still interested if anyone has any information too add to any of the above.


Teresa
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Re: TOMLINSONS South Normanton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 December 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Re marriage would not be frowned upon by the methodists -quite the opposite.
If John was a widower he would be encouraged to marry - probably to a widow within the church.

It is the census records you need to check for consistency of age -do you have access to them??

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk