Mayzes families living in Battersea

[MickBakunin]

Jonas Mayzes (1803 - 1876 Battersea) and his wife Mehitabel Unknown (1805 Suffolk - 1892 Battersea) had about 10 children. One of their descendants was Samuel James Mayzes born February 17 1879 in Battersea. I cannot find this person in the 1881 census, although there are three Mayzes families living on Currie Street in Battersea at that time.

 :-\Where I am really confused is that later in life there appear to be two Samuel James Mayzes born in 1879. One married Minnie Jane Ball in 1901. Another married Amelia Excell in 1900. Both produced several children in the 20th century, so I do not believe that they are the same person.

I would like to establish the connections between Samuel James Mayzes to Jonas Mayzes. The various families arrived in Battersea via Essex.

Many Thanks,

Mick

[ShaunJ]

Looks like Samuel James is listed as James in the 1881 census, with parents George and Lydia at 3 Woodgate St Battersea.  RG11/652 f 98 p 9

[Necromancer]

Only one Sam* J M on the 1901 - not allowing for mistrans that is - married to the Amelia you mention ..

and only one Birth entry in FreeBMD .... have you searched for the death of Amelia, it might be your man marrying agin quite quickly ?

[ShaunJ]

There are 3 children of Jonas & Mehitabel in the IGI:

George Mayzes 1846 Raily, Essex, England
 
William Mayzes  1843 Raily, Essex, England

Samuel James Mayzes  17 MAR 1844 Hadleigh, Essex, England

George must be the father of Samuel James (birthplace and year tie in), therefore S J would be the grandson of Jonas.

[Necromancer]

have you got both Marriage Certs - Fathers name would help - I cant see another Sam in the Births indexes altho there are a couple of James elsewhere in the country 1875 - 1885

[MickBakunin]

Thank you for your replies. Yes, I had seen that 1881 census information. I wonder whether Samuel James Mayzes can be found in the 1891 census aged about 12.

Amelia Excell lived from 1880 to 1960 and had children between 1907 and 1914. Minnie Jane Ball had children between 1901 and 1905. I do not know when Minnie Jane Ball died. Samuel James Mayzes married in Sep 1900 Wandsworth 1d 1134 and Dec 1901 Wandsworth 1d 1295 so I expect that there are two Samuel James Mayzes persons.

There was a Samuel James Mayzes born 1844 in Essex and I speculate that he is the father of Samuel James Mayzes born 1879. I cannot find either in the 1881 census (perhaps they were missed). The latter produced decendants Samuel James Mayzes 1902 and grandson Samuel James Mayzes in 1923. Samuel James Mayzes (1844 - 1912) married Caroline Sarah Baker (1844 - 1901) in 1877. It is this couple that I cannot find in the census.

Mick

[MickBakunin]

Unfortunately I do not possess any certificates - the specific dates come from other sources (living Mayzes). If I cannot figure things out using census data I will invest in a birth certificate for Samuel James Mayzes born 1879.

Mick

[Necromancer]

seen this ?

1901 - RG13/440; Folio: 117; Page: 12 - Battersea
6, Soudan Road

 
James Samuel Mayger 57  Head  ~~~ Contractor born Essex, Hadleigh
Carosine Sarah Mayger 57  Wife London, Newington
Sallie A M Edwards 34  Servant
Ernest John Edwards 12  Visitor
Martha Thorley 64  Monthly Nurse

[Necromancer]

The 2 marriage Certs would better help differentiate and see if there was a Doppelganger or not ?