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Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather *COMPLETED*
« on: Monday 15 December 08 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone out there have a HEISE in their family tree or know anyone who has. There are one or two families around but they don't seem to have any connection with mine who have all disappeared without trace.
GGf Rudolph Gustav Paul Heise last record is on the birth certificate of his son Julius Paul was born and died 1904 Birkenhead.
Gustav had a brother Ernest Rudolph who also lived in Birkenhead at the same time, his wife was Ella nee HENBREY they married in London They had twins Max and Millicent born 1903.in Birkenhead They must have moved to London some time after this because they had a daughter Joan Ethel in 1921, what an age gap!!
I know quite a bit about them because I have copies of marriage and birth certificates. But can find no records of deaths for any of them.
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Gustav and Ernest were both hairdressers. Their father was a Band Master his name was Julius and his wife Bertha possibly living in Barrington road Liverpool in 1908.
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 December 08 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Hello and welcome to Rootschat.

Are you hoping to track down living relatives or trace your lineage back to Germany?

Justin

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 December 08 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello Justin
In  short term I thought that if I could find some living relatives they may have some idea as to what happened to him. He was my mothers GF but was always a mystery in the family. His wife was Sarah Jane Hartwell and died in 1954 in Chester and on her death certificate her name is Paul but it says widow of Gustav Heise. When I saw this it was the first time I heard the name Heise. There is quite a gap in my family tree because of his mystery.
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 December 08 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello Michael,

Have you tried searching for HEISE in the National Archives catalogue?

There is a file from 1933 regarding the re-admission to British nationality of Sarah Jane Heise of Birkenhead!!! Would make very interesting reading. It could mean that the yencountered problems during WWI if Gustav was not naturalized at the time.

Gustav's birth and baptism in Danzig (Gdansk) is also contained in the IGI on www.familysearch.org

It can be surprisingly difficult to research these 'recent' ancestors. My late father did not even know exactly when his grandfather had died.

You have a fascinating journey ahead of you.

Justin


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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 December 08 15:23 GMT (UK) »
From free BMD - posted for reference:

Marriages Mar 1898   
Heise Rudolph Gustav P
Marylebone 1a 917

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Hartwell Sarah Jane

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 December 08 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Hello Justin
In  short term I thought that if I could find some living relatives they may have some idea as to what happened to him. He was my mothers GF but was always a mystery in the family. His wife was Sarah Jane Hartwell and died in 1954 in Chester and on her death certificate her name is Paul but it says widow of Gustav Heise. When I saw this it was the first time I heard the name Heise. There is quite a gap in my family tree because of his mystery.
Michael

I expect you have this, but you never know?

http://www.familyhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1996

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 December 08 16:04 GMT (UK) »

Can someone try the Times Digital Archive - I can't do it from work.

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 December 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »


You may also have seen this:

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?p=218288

with this :

http://pilot.familysearch.org/record...oYear=1940;p=1 shows a Charlotte Heise of Berlin, and an Emma Heise of Berlin both emigrating to New York (Ellis Island records), one 1913, the other Sept 1921. Could it be the same family? Did your relative hear from them about life out there, go off and join them?  Perhaps it might have been his intention to send for his English family when he'd got established, but things didn't go well