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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 14 February 09 19:59 GMT (UK) »
The website ca.geocities.com/ventures0@Rogers.com has lots of pictures of Sunderland shipbuilding sites and their product. Unfortunately it was the larger vessels that drew the public attention. Similarly I have the Dictionary of disasters at sea 1824 to 1962 by Charles Hocking but it only covers ships over 500 tons. The Australians have Ronald Parsons compilation of losses in the Antipodean trades but not on line.
I guess the only thing is to consult copies of Lloyds List and Lloyds Index at somewhere like the National Maritime Museum.
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 14 February 09 20:06 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to say that the Dictionary only includes casualties with loss of more than 5 lives, so the Annie Archbell may have been wrecked but her crew had escaped.
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #20 on: Monday 30 March 09 05:54 BST (UK) »
Hi peter
do you know anything about The Bellerophon from Nelsons fleet used in its old age as a hulk for boy convicts at sheerness?
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #21 on: Monday 30 March 09 16:51 BST (UK) »
There is a good paperback, Billy Ruffian by David Cordingly published by Bloomsbury pbks.
Briefly Bellerophon was converted to a convict hulk in 1815 stationed in the Medway. Then in 1823 became a special facility for boy convicts to keep them separate from hardened older men. In 1826 they were moved to better facilities and Bellerophon was moved to Plymouth used for convicts awaiting transport to Australia. She was finally sold in 1836 and broken up by the purchaser.
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 14:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Peter
do you know where the boy convicts were kept after 1823  mine was somewhere for 18months before sent to VDL
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 18:08 BST (UK) »
Some time before Jan 1826 the boys were transferred to a specially fitted out prison ship, the ex-frigate Euryalus at Chatham, though that proved too cramped and the boys there gave a lot of trouble.
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #24 on: Monday 31 May 10 13:38 BST (UK) »
Peter: 

I've just found the report of the loss of Annie Archbell - 13 April 1867 on Terschelling Bank, Netherlands, with a loss of 4, the remaining 14 crew were saved by the Terschelling Pilot Boat No: 7.  According to the Schager Courant of 8 August 1867 the skipper of the pilot boat received £19, another crew member received £6 and the reamining 4 members of the crew received £3 each from HM the Queen for their services.  8)

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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #25 on: Monday 31 May 10 18:38 BST (UK) »
Jusr shows, sailing round the world is not difficult. It's the land which is dangerous!
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Re: Sunderland Shipbuilders
« Reply #26 on: Monday 02 August 10 19:48 BST (UK) »
Hello! A couple of the earlier messages refer to a website no longer available. The website in question is indeed still available via the links that follow which are to such data as I have WWW found re i) 'Annie Archbell' built 1860 and ii) George Peverall of Sunderland, its builder.

http://www.searlecanada.org/sunderland/sunderland049.html#anniearchbell
http://www.searlecanada.org/sunderland/sunderland049.html#peverall

Additional data, to add to either of those listings, would be most welcome.

Peter Searle, Toronto, Canada