John McGachen b. 1787 Cheltenham?

[patrexjax]

Hello Rootschatters, I am totally out of my zone in this part of the UK so please bear with me...  A cousin and I have links to the McGachen family of Cheltenham. At this time, I am totally perplexed about John McGachen who purportedly was b. abt 1787 in Cheltenham according to an unreliable source: IGI submitted entry.  However, the only John McGachen who appears to fit the time frame is one chr. 27 May 1787 in Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. One census entry in 1881 shows a probable son born in Scotland. I think what might help me at this point is to find John McGachen and his wife: Ann (nee: Dew) in 1841 and possibly 1851 census. According to visitation records, Ann died in 1873. There appears to be a link between the Cheltenham McGachens and some McGachens in Selby, Yorkshire.    ANY information on this dilemma would be most appreciated.   Thank you kindly!  Pat

[ChasH]

Pat,

Yes, that IGI entry certainly is unreliable for there are no McGachens in Chelt' according to the Hugh Wallis site.

Many McG's are given by freebmd ( http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ) in West Derby; have you considered any of them?

Regards

Chas.

[patrexjax]

Hello Chas. Thank you; I shall keep that in mind when I try to tie the group together. Pat

[Liz in France]

Hi,

I have just put in the name of Ann McGlashen (I did this as I knew a family by that name when I lived in Cheltenham) and the first entry that came up for 1841 was as follows:
Ann McClechen b. circa 1803

John 40 Barrister at Law
Ann 38
John 15
Donald 10
Etchibald 10

I looked at the census page and it looks like Mac Geshen.  Last one is Archibald.

HO107 piece 369 Book 7

Is this the one you are looking for?

Edit:

Forgot to say, the family were living in Corse which about 20 miles NW of Cheltenham and that they were all born outside the county and there is a mark in the next column that denotes that John snr was born in Ireland, Scotland or abroad.  It seems likely therefore that this is your family but John was born later than you supposed, that is if the age is right.  1841 being a bad one to check on.

Elizabeth

[patrexjax]

Hello Liz in France, Thank you so much for your reply.  I think this may not be the family: the visitation indicates that Ann (nee: Dew) McGachen was b. 1790 and was baptised at St. Mary le Bone Church in London; she married John McGachen (birth date and place unknown) in 1820 at the British Embassy in Paris, France. (According to the visitation, John McGachen was a Lt. H.M. Royal Fleet.  Some of the McGachens that I think are related were in the military as well as some being vicars of various churches.) The name Archibald does occur in several generations, so I suspect this family is related, but not the exact one I seek.  Thanks again!  Pat

[Liz in France]

Hi Pat,

Just found a few more things of interest after reading your message.

John Drummond McGashan born 1826 registered Cheltenham,  in 1861, 1871 and 1881 was Reverend at St Bartholmews Church Bethnall Green London. 

John Paris McGachen born 1879 reg. Cheltenham.  son of Donald McGachen
living in Corse 1891.

Ann Mc Gachen died June 1873 registered Newent, vol 6a page 165 born 1790

Any good.?

Elizabeth

[patrexjax]

Hello Liz in France! YES, I am doing the happy dance!    These are definitely some of the family group I am trying to put together. John Paris McGachen is new to me!  I am not certain who his Father, Donald is!!  In fact, I cannot find either in any census.  I am still in hopes of finding this family in earlier years (esp 1851) where birth place and exact ages are listed. And, yes, the death in 1873 is Ann (nee: Dew) McGachen.  My earlier suspicions that the McGachens were from Scotland is looking more and more likely.  In fact, I think several may have been Seaforth Highlanders according to oral family history....Again, my thanks!  Pat

[Keziahemm]

Forest of Dean Family History Society has transcribed parish records, including Corse and Newent.
This is on an ongoing project, the transcriptions are free to view but you do need to register.

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/

Regards

Susan 

[Liz in France]

Hi again,

Good, I'm glad some of it is use to you.  John Paris was the son of Donald, who was the son of John and Ann.

Donald Rollo McGashen born c. 1828 married Emily born 1845 of Halsham, Yorkshire.  In 1891 he was living on his own means.

John Drummond born c. 1825 married Sophia from Selby in Yorkshire.

I can look up some more tomorrow, if you like.  It is nearly 1.00 am and I am going to bed.

Best wishes,
Elizabeth