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Help needed with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 01:28 BST (UK) »
Hi :),I am trying to trace the family of Randall Copeland Bell of 19 Princess Royal Road Scarborough.Occupation,Vetinerary Surgeon.
On the 1901 Cenus his wife is named as Muriel Bell and there is one child named as Lister D.Bell age 8 months.I am aware of at least one other child,Marjorie Copeland Bell,born September quarter 1901 at Scarborough.Muriel Bell wife of Randall was born 1877 at Newcastle on Tyne and was the daughter of Frances Jane Fenwick McAllum (my great grandfathers sister) and William Joshua Watson.
Parents of Randall Copeland Bell were Thomas Bell,Mining Egineer and H.M. Inspector of Mines,and Margaret Bell.Siblings of Randall were,George Frederick Bell,Thomas Alfred Bell,Charles William Bell and Emily Mary Bell.On the 1881 census they were living at 25 Old Elvet,Elvet Durham.
On the Durham Mining Museum site there is some information about George Frederick Bell of 30 Eldon St Newcastle on Tyne.Also I noticed the name Emerson Muschamp Bainbridge who was a cousin of Muriel Bells mother Frances.Seems to be many  mining connections with the Bell family.
I have found no other information about Randall and his family except for a snippet view from Google books.
From the Royal Blue Book,Parliamentry Guide,1908.Abington Court,Randall Copeland Bell.
I apologise for the haphazard nature of my enquiry,but hope someone out there will recognise some of the names or will be able to help.I originally had posted an enquiry on the  North Yorkshire Look up page,which led to some great help from Indis Vanyar.Many thanks in advance.gereon. :)
,McAllum,Argyll.McAllum, Newcastle.Donkin,Newcastle.McKechnie,Auckland.Bainbridge,Newcastle.Fenwick,Featherstone,Muschamp,Little,Craster Northumberland.Livingstone,Inverness.

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Re: Help neede with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 07:39 BST (UK) »
I have found another of them! This time returning to the UK from Nigeria.

Derek Copeland Bell travelling 1st Class from Lagos to Liverpool
Proposed address in the UK - Address - 3 Manor House Road
Newcastle upon Tyne
Occupation - Medical
Age -31
Country of last perm. residence - Nigeria
Ship's name - T.M.V. Aba
British and African Steam Navigation Co Ltd
Date of Arrival - 3 September 1930

I wonder where he fits in?

Nell
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Re: Help neede with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 07:44 BST (UK) »
He is George Frederick Bell's son -
 
Derek Copeland Bell
Christening date - 16 Feb 1900 in Newcastle upon Tyye
Fathers name George Frederick Bell

Nell  (who now has to go to work rather than spend time Rootschatting ;))
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Re: Help neede with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 07:58 BST (UK) »
Thats so interesting Nell  :oand something to look into.The Copeland must be a family name.Another interesting piece of information from the Durham Mining Museum,Thomas Bell,father of Randall Copeland Bell,has his address for the years 1896-1898 as 15,The Valley Scarborough and 1909,as 40 Esplanade Road Scarborough.Moving slowly on this difficult  but fascinating,branch of the family.gereon :)
,McAllum,Argyll.McAllum, Newcastle.Donkin,Newcastle.McKechnie,Auckland.Bainbridge,Newcastle.Fenwick,Featherstone,Muschamp,Little,Craster Northumberland.Livingstone,Inverness.


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Re: Help neede with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 17:50 BST (UK) »
No sign of the Copeland name in these earlier census'.


1861 census has:
RG9/3745/85 /23
Durham Shincliffe
Shincliffe Grange?
Thomas Bell, head, mar, 30, Colliery Viewer, born Durham Medomsley
Margaret Bell, wife, mar, 26, Viewer's wife, born Durham Shildon
Emily M Bell, dau, 1, born Durham
plus two house servants, both born Durham

1851 census has:
HO 107/2390/1
Durham
Elvet
George Bell, head, mar, 62, Farmer, employing 4 labourers, born Durham Medomsley
Margaret Bell, wife, mar, 49, wife, born Durham Shotley Bridge
William Bell, son, unm, 22, Farmers son, born Durham Medomsley
Thomas Bell, son, unm, 21, Viewer, born Durham Medomsley
Joseph Bell, son, unm, 16, Farmers Son, born Durham Medomsley
Jane Bell, dau, unm, 12, Farmers daughter, born Durham Fulforth
Mary Bell, dau, unm, 10, Farmers daughter,born Durhan Fulforth
John Ger? Bell, son, unm, 7, Farmers son, born City of Durham
Margaret Ann Bell, dau, unm, 4, Farmers daughter, born City of Durham
Mary Smith, servant, unm, 16, House servant, born Durham Myers Green

1841 census has:
HO107/320/10/48
City of Durham
Hallgarth Street
George Bell, 50, Farmer
Margaret Bell, 40
William Bell, 12
Thomas Bell, 10
Joseph Bell, 6
Jane Bell, 2
Mary Bell, 1 month
plus two servants
all born in County Durham

A lot of hunting ahead I feel :D

Nell
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Re: Help neede with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hi gereon

Thomas and Margaret's children just in case you do not have them.

Births Mar 1860 - Emily Mary Bell - Durham 10a 284

Births Sep 1861 George Frederick Bell - Durham 10a 288

Births Mar 1865 - Thomas Alfred Bell - Easington 10a 359

Births Dec 1867 - Charles William Bell - Durham 10a 276

Births - Dec 1869 - Randal Copeland Bell - Chesterfield 7b 499

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Re: Help needed with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 October 08 05:50 BST (UK) »
A little information that seems to confirm that members of this branch of the Bell family were living in Scarborough.Randall Copeland Bells father,Thomas Bell J.P.,formally Chief Inspector of Mines for County Durham,died at Scarborough aged 82 on the 20th February 1913. gereon ;)
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Re: Help needed with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 October 08 07:32 BST (UK) »
Another link in your puzzle!

Randal C Bell, age 40, occ given as Merchant
Mrs Bell, age 37, wife
Mast Leslie Bell, 11, child
Miss Marjorie Bell, Child
all travelling Liverpool to Melbourne Australia on the Runic.
Departure date 7 July 1910

so I went back to Free BMD and now have
Births Sep 1900
Leslie William C Bell
Battle 2b 51   (Battle is in the county of Sussex)
so not Lister D Bell after all!

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Nell

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Re: Help needed with Bell Family,Scarborough 1901.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 October 08 08:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Nell.Thats astounding :o,the thought the family may have emmigrated never entered my head.Great to have the correct name for Leslie at last.Many thanks are due to you for all the time you must have spent searching for and compiling the information I needed,gereon :)
,McAllum,Argyll.McAllum, Newcastle.Donkin,Newcastle.McKechnie,Auckland.Bainbridge,Newcastle.Fenwick,Featherstone,Muschamp,Little,Craster Northumberland.Livingstone,Inverness.