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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 March 09 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, Mick - that's great information.  Please convey my gratitude to your correspondent, too.

Hadn't thought about the attestation papers - that should resolve the issue of Charles Henry's identity, but my money's on him being the chap born in Duncton.  I'll let you know if I ever find out for sure.

I understand Nasirabad is quite some distance from Bombay - is that why Charles never saw his son?  I.e. son born in Nasirabad while father had just a few days to live in Bombay.

Thanks again,
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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 28 March 09 19:35 GMT (UK) »
FRANCES RIGGLESFORD bap. APRIL 5TH 1795 BRIGHTLING
MARRIED ELIAS NEWMAN NOV.22ND 1813 MOUNTFIELD
son JOHN NEWMAN RIGGLESFORD(FARM BAILIFF) bap. AUG 25TH 1813 BRIGHTLING
                                                                              d.1877 HASTINGS
MARRIED TO HARRIET MORRIS b. 1814 BRIGHTLING d. 1875 HASTINGS
CHILDREN: FRANCES CHARITY NEWMAN RIGGLESFORD b. 1836
                     m.1859 to JAMES SELLENS

                  GEORGE NEWMAN RIGGLESFORD b. 1839 GUESTLING
                     m.1864 RYE to CAROLINE MONK b.1833 d.1906
                      children: LOUISA KATE NEWMAN RIGGLESFORD b.1866
                                     ANNIE M. NEWMAN b.1868
                                     ALICE NEWMAN b.1871
                                     EMILY HARRIET N.RIGGLESFORD b.1873 d.1933
                                     FLORENCE SARAH N. RIGGLESFORD b.1877
                   died as GEORGE NEWMAN RIGELSFORD d. 1906 HASTINGS

                  THOMAS NEWMAN RIGGLESFORD b. 1840 HOOE
                    m.1864 to CATHERINE LEADBETTER b.1840 ICKLESHAM d. 1906 HASTINGS
                     remarried 1907 to ANNIE ELIZABETH HARMAN d.1923 BATTLE
                   died as THOMAS NEWMAN RICKLESFORD d.1911 HASTINGS

                  STREETER MORRIS NEWMAN b. 1843 HOOE
                     m. 1865 HARTLEPOOLS to AMELIA PEARSON
                     1871 census shows STREETER 28,master mariner
                                                     AMELIA 25,
                                                     JOHN D 5,
                                                      STREETER 2,

                     ELIZABETH NEWMAN b.1845 HOOE

                     JOHN WILLIAM NEWMAN b. 1849 FAIRLIGHT

                     MARTHA MATILDA NEWMAN RICKLESFORD b. 1855 WESTFIELD
                      m.1873 to RICHARD WHITE
                     1881 census shows them living at 10,PARADISE STREET MIDDX.
                               Daughter ELIZA 5,living with Aunt FRANCES CHARITY
                      1901 census in HACKNEY
                       













               

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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 05 April 09 08:43 BST (UK) »
Streeter born 1869 was with his uncle Thomas in 1881, who was Thomas NEWMAN/Thomas Newman RICKLESFORD, who married using the full name. John and Harriet's daughter Frances also married using the RIGGLESFORD name.

I thought Harriet's maiden name might have been MORRIS. Could not find a John NEWMAN marriage on the SMI but did find a Harriet MORRIS.

I am picking that John may have been born out of wedlock, and that his mother was a RIGGLESFORD. Quite often in those cases the fathers surname is given as a second name, in this case NEWMAN, hence John Newman Rigglesford. It became recognised that his fathers name was NEWMAN, and so the RIGGLESFORD was dropped.

The SMI can be purchased from the SFHG, link in the Sussex Resources page.

If you can get access to the Brightling PRs you might find his baptism to confirm this one way or the other.

See that Harriet's death was registered Jun qtr 1875 as Harriet Newman RIGGLESFORD aged 61, and John's Dec qtr 1877 as John Newman RIGGLESFORD aged 64.

Ian C

don't know if this helps at all?
john newman rigglesford baptised 25th april 1813 brightling sussex .mothers name listed as frances rigglesford no father listed.
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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 05 April 09 09:44 BST (UK) »
Probably means the marriage I crossed out earlier between Frances and Elias can be uncrossed as being John's parents.

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CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 22 August 09 10:50 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

My mother's maiden name was Newman and have traced back to Elias Newman who married Frances Rigglesford. Would be interested if you have got back any further as have come to a dead halt.

Best Wishes

Hilary

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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 23 August 09 16:58 BST (UK) »
Hilary
Thomas Rigglesford bapt 1659 Lindfield
Married 1693 Lindfield,  Anne Granby
John fifth child of 14 bapt Dec 26 1699 Maresfield
Married Jan 14 1730 Maresfield, Mary Older
Joseph the forth child of 12, bapt Dec 14 1735
married 1761 Framfield, Ann Martin
John forth of 10 children bapt May 24 1767 Framfield
                                            buried 1846 Brightling
Married July 27 1791 Mountfield Sarah Roots
Frances bapt April 5 1795
third  of 11 children

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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #24 on: Monday 24 August 09 08:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you, that information is very helpful. Did you have any more information about the Newman side

Best Wishes

Hilary  :D

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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #25 on: Monday 24 August 09 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hilary
All my research on John Newman Rigglesford is identical to that listed by Bogroll
exept John remarried 1876 to Eliza Staples
The 1898 Hampstead married of Streeter Newman could be father on son
have never checked on this.

The Joseph Rigglesford born 1735 was brother to my ancestor William born 1740

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Re: streeter morris newman
« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 August 09 11:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot

Hilary ;)