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Re: Could someone please help?!
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Thats great stuff thanks gadget!   :)
Charles, late1600> - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell abt.1820 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1716 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1723 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1740 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1819> - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1820> - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 21:32 GMT (UK) »
a little bit more:

If the David who married in 1806 is yours:

Baptism - Tregynon
16 January 1786 David Andrew s/o Thomas Andrew and Elizabeth

Marriage - Tregynon

2 Nov 1777 Thomas Andrew, otp, bachelor and Elizabeth Morgan, otp, spinster. Witnesses - Thomas Davies and Richard Humphreys


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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 21:40 GMT (UK) »
This looks like it could be a possible brother/relative of David, given that there was a later Evan Andrew:

Marriage - 28 Nov 1802 Tregynon
Evan Andrew, otp, bachelor, and Elizabeth Whittikas ?, otp, widow. Licence. Witnesses - Arthur Evans and David Andrew


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« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Possible baptism for Thomas Andrew, father of David

Tregynon
7 Feb 1755  Thomas s/o David Andrew and Jane

(one also listed for 7 Feb 1752 so either in error or a previous son who died)



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« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Wow thats some great stuff  :D :o :D Keep it coming gadget!!!  ;)
 
You know on replay #28 the 1806 marriage info. what does OTP stand for and being the youngest person on Roots-Chat, Im not sure what the correct meaning of the word "spinster" is am I right in thinking its a older woman who has never married?
Charles, late1600> - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell abt.1820 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1716 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1723 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1740 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1819> - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1820> - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

*Absolutely any information about the Llanddeusant area*

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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Duke

otp means 'of this parish'

Spinster is usually a female of over the minimum age of marriage (16 in this case)   who has not previously been married.

I suspect that in the 1806 marriage both of them were 'minors' - under the age of 21.

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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Ok thanks for that, do any of the marriage certs. have any DoB's on them for the women just to I can put it down on my tree if not no prob. hope you dont think Im not being greatful for the info you've already got me, asking for more  :-[
Charles, late1600> - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell abt.1820 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1716 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1723 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1740 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1819> - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1820> - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

*Absolutely any information about the Llanddeusant area*

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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 22:30 GMT (UK) »
You'd have to get the 1806 information via the marriage bond/allegation - I gave the link earlier.

Most  parish record (pre 1837) marriage entries only record those between 16-21 as 'wcop' - with consent of parents. This didn't but it gave both father's names.

The early statutory marriage certificates post Sept. 1837 often enter minor or of full age. Later the age is given.


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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Marriage -  Manafon

15 September 1745 David Andrew and Jane Woosnam of Tregynon, By Licence.

Another for the Aberystwyth search


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Added - Manafon is again in the broad Tregynon area  :)
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