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Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« on: Tuesday 30 December 08 01:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rootschatters! I am hoping you can help me.  This is all I know at this time" Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen was b. abt 1822/1823 to John Mc Gachen and Ann Dew, probably in Scotland (Ayr, Ayr?)  At any rate, he became a barrister and in 1851 was living in Turville, Gloucester with his brother, Nicholas Howard Mc Gachen,  practicing law. After 1851 he drops off the UK radar and I could not find him in any census after 1851 nor could I find his death.  HOWEVER, I have found in Ontario, Canada in 1881 what I believe to be his family....Widow, Mary Mc Gachen b. Scotland abt. 1821 and two children: John Mc Gachen, b. abt 1850 in Scotland and Mary Mc Gachen b. abt 1854 in Ontario, Canada. I have found his death in Ontario, Canada on 18 Oct 1880.  Can anyone find Frederick's marriage, presumably in Scotland? Thank you kindly!  Pat
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Not the marriage unfortunately but Frederick and Nicholas can be found in Ayr, Ayrshire in the 1841 census on FreeCEN at:

http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

SCT1841/578, ED7, Page 8
Doonbrae Cottage, Ayr, Ayrshire
There are 15 persons listed (I won't transcribe them as you can see them online yourself) including:
MCGACHAN Nicolas 15 b Scotland but not Ayrshire
MCGACHAN Frideric 14 b England
No occupation is listed for either of them.

A Google for:
"Nicholas Howard McGachen"
(with the quotes)
gets two hits.

One is a reference to both of them in the National Archives/Access to Archives.
This is in 1880 and involves a mortgage - names include Frederich Stewart MacGachen of Galt, Ontario, Canada esq and Nicholas Howard McGachen, clerk, of Canterbury.

The other is an Ancestry (& One World Tree) reference to members researching Nicholas Howard Mcgachen, b 1822, Edinburgh, Midlothian.

FreeBMD lists a marriage for Nicholas Howard McGachen in Dover, Dec qtr 1868.

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 09:26 GMT (UK) »
As you will know, relationships etc aren't shown on the 1841 - but it looks as though David AULD is the head and Euphemia his wife ... (both are listed as born in Ayrshire)

I wondered whether the wife might perhaps have been a McGachen....

So I looked for a marriage.

And found in the IGI the marriage of David AULD and Euphamia MCGACHEN in 1803 in Ayr.
And children to them in Ayr:
Robert 1803
James 1804
Patrick 1807
Agnes 1809
Jean 1810
Jean 1812
Joan 1814
David 1816
William Donaldson 1818
Euphemia Barton 1820
William 1822
Richard Oswald 1824

Also Googled for "Doonbrae Cottage".  Quite a lot of hits including on the Rootsweb Ayr list a death notice for David AULD:
AULD, David - D15/9/1852 - At Doonbrae Cottage, Ayr, on the 15th instant, David Auld, Esq
This was from the Wigtownshire Free Press which a Google will find.

Also a brief mention here:
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~howiefamily/221/46.htm

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Hello JAP, Thank you  for the additional information. I have no proof yet, but suspect that Euphemia Auld was, in fact, a McGachen - (sister?)  Perhaps I should be looking a Canadian marriages??? :o  It surely is a puzzle and I thank you for your efforts and additional information.
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL


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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 02:06 GMT (UK) »
... I have no proof yet, but suspect that Euphemia Auld was, in fact, a McGachen - (sister?)  ... 

What further proof do you require?  You know from the IGI marriage record, and the IGI records of the births of children to David & Euphemia, that Euphemia's maiden surname was MCGACHEN (however spelled).

I now see that you had already found this yourself - see your thread at:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,348426

You may wish to download the marriage/banns record from the (fee-paying -  but charges are reasonable) site ScotlandsPeople at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
This will merely be an entry in the Old Parish Register - sometimes these provide further information but sometimes they have nothing more than is in the IGI.

Liz in France contributed a huge amount of information on that thread - including finding Nicolas and Frideric in Ayr on the 1841 census ...

Here are some further snippets found by Googling.

1815
IGI marriage/banns entry

James MCGACHEN/ Mary PATRICK, 5 Feb 1815, St Martin in the Fields, Westminster, London, Middlesex

University of Waterloo Archives & Rare Books
http://www.lib.uwaterloo.ca/discipline/SpecColl/archives/haney.html
Stewart MacGachen mentioned here is possibly Frederick.

Dumfries Reformer Marriages 1860-1865
http://www.waterlooogs.ca/Newspapers/Dumfries/DumfriesReformerMarriages1860-1865.pdf
Includes:
MACGACHEN F.S.  News date 22 Oct 1862
MacGachen, F.S. married 15 Oct 1862 to Charlotte Thompson At Berlin, by Rev E R Stinson, Frederick Stewart, barrister-at-law, Waterloo Village. 2nd son late John MacGachen, Cheltenham, England; Charlotte Louisa, eld dau of Colonel Thompson, Arthur, Wellington Co
I wonder whether this was Frederick's first marriage?


Trinity Anglican Cemetery, Galt, Ontario

http://www.waterlooogs.ca/cemeterypics/TrinityAnglicanGaltCemetery.html
Burials include the following MACGACHENs:
Annie Louisa
Charlotte Louisa (Thompson)
Edythe Mary (McPhail)
Frederick L.D.
Frederick Stewart
Gertrude Rose (Kirkpatrick)
Maud Martha
Percy N. S.

It seems (?) that copies of tombstone inscriptions may be available for purchase.

JAP
(Edit only to put the burials in bold)

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 02:40 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry World Tree; Georges Family
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=georgesfamily&surname=MacDonald%2C+George&ti=4317
This lists a son of Frederick Stewart MACGACHEN & Charlotte Louisa THOMPSON:
-  Frederick LeStrange Dew MACGACHEN b 13 Feb 1870, Waterloo, Ontario


He married Gertrude Rose KIRKPATRICK and they had:
- Helen Louise MACGACHEN b 12 Apr 1906, Orillia, Ontario
- Freda Kathleen MACGACHEN b 26 Jul 1908, Orillia, Ontario

A book by Frederick Stewart MACGACHEN
http://c19.chadwyck.co.uk/html/noframes/moreinfo/econ_t.htm#M
MacGachen, Frederic Stewart.
The Ionian Islands: a sketch of their past history, with reference to their position under our protectorate.
London, 1859.Title no: 1.1.2065 (1 mf)
Economics

(Edit just to put son in bold)
 

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 03:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello JAP, WOW! You have certainly given me a lot of information to digest. I cannot begin to thank you enough for all of this...  Your information tells me that Frederick Stewart McGachen's wife was Charlotte....AND, so much more! I'll need some time to digest this information. Thanks again for your help.  Pat
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 03:55 GMT (UK) »
I had another post just about ready but my connexion went down ...

Not sure what it said but ...

There was another book by Frederick - found by Googling.

And material about the legal firm he started in Waterloo, Ontario.
The following is not the reference I found earlier but actually has more info:
http://www.kwlaw.net/html/firm_profile.html
"In 1861, when Ontario was still Canada West and Waterloo was a small village, the law office of Frederick S. McGashaen (sic) was established."

And another child of Frederick & Charlotte.
From the IGI (for Canada), an extracted entry:
Maud Martha MACGACHEN, b 10 Dec 1873, Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, parents Frederic Stewart MACGACHEN & Charlotte Louise THOMPSON

Think there were some MacGashen passenger list records too.

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(Edit just to put the daughter in bold) 

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Re: Frederick Stewart Mc Gachen m. abt 1852? Where?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 04:58 GMT (UK) »
Here are some links;

Marriage: F.S. MacGachen - Charlotte Thompson
October 15, 1862 - Berlin, Ontario
http://www.waterlooogs.ca/Newspapers/Dumfries/DumfriesReformerMarriages1860-1865.pdf

Google Books
http://www.rootschat.com/links/056o/

Gazetteer and directory of the county of Waterloo, 1867
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=3915469

The Province of Ontario Gazetteer and Directory
http://www.rootschat.com/links/056p/

Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/056q/


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