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More Clark's In Rye
« on: Tuesday 06 January 09 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Hoping these people ring a bell with the other Clark researchers in the Rye area:

Elizabeth 1792
Catherine 1795
George 1797
Dinah 1798
Sabina 1801
James 1803

All baptised in Rye to James and Mary Clark, on the IGI in batch C000260 (extracted PR).  If anyone has any info on these Clarks, especially the parents, I would be very grateful.

Thanks,
Brenda
Durham/NBL - Cummin(g)s, Stokoe, Burdess, Embleton, Stirrup, Bewick, Doney, Lumsdon, Laws, Bloomfield, Hunter, Henderson, Mosman
Lancashire - Stirrup, Molyneux, Rudd, Golding
Cambs - Palmer, Butler, Levitt, Golding, Skeel,  Howard, Hancock, Bowers, Norton, Colman, Peachey, Crane
Surrey - Palmer
Berks - Cruttwell, Bunce, Batten
IOW - Roach, Robinson
Cornwall - Doney, Gumb, Goyne
S Wales - Thomas, Dickinson (via Cumbria)
Coastguard Families: Clark, Fuller, Grant

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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brenda,

James (1754-1827) & Mary (nee Fisher - 1759-1828) Clark are my 4x GGP. James was a miller & baker & had at least one mill in Rye & also a bakery shop on the High St.

Their children as far as I know were Mary (c1780), James (I think c1782 - possibly James c1803 was a grandchild or this James died - I don't know for sure), Robert (c1784), Thomas (c1786), Michael (c1788), Fisher (1790-1867 - my 3x GGF), Elizabeth (c1792), Catherine (c1795) & Sabina (c1801).

All the above children are mentioned in James' will so I know were his. I wonder whether George & Dinah might have died or whether they were from another branch of the family. I think the first very likely considering the 6 year gap between Catherine & Sabina.

How are you related to James & Mary? I'd be interested in any info you might have about the Clarks.

Hope this helps.
Best wishes
Liz
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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 January 09 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Liz
My husband is a direct descendant of a George Clark, bn c1797 in Rye.  George married a Maria (possibly Fuller, and probably in Dover in 1820) and was in the Navy/Coastguard Service.  In 1841 the family were in St Just in Cornwall, back in Dover in 1851 and in Bridlington in 1861.  George died sometime before the 1871 census, and his widow returned to Dover and died there in 1887.

I may be putting the cart before the horse, but the George born to James and Mary in Rye in 1797 was the only one I could come up with, so I searched the batch and came up with the other possible siblings, but this may of may not be the case.  "My" George did also have a son named James, but it's a common first name too.  I did also find a James Clark marrying a Mary Harmon in July 1792 but that was in Lewes so I'm not sure of the connection, assuming there is one.  In the course of your research have you come across another George born 1797ish in Rye? 

Brenda

Durham/NBL - Cummin(g)s, Stokoe, Burdess, Embleton, Stirrup, Bewick, Doney, Lumsdon, Laws, Bloomfield, Hunter, Henderson, Mosman
Lancashire - Stirrup, Molyneux, Rudd, Golding
Cambs - Palmer, Butler, Levitt, Golding, Skeel,  Howard, Hancock, Bowers, Norton, Colman, Peachey, Crane
Surrey - Palmer
Berks - Cruttwell, Bunce, Batten
IOW - Roach, Robinson
Cornwall - Doney, Gumb, Goyne
S Wales - Thomas, Dickinson (via Cumbria)
Coastguard Families: Clark, Fuller, Grant

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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 January 09 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi  Brenda,

Oops sorry for suggesting that George might have died! I've had another look at James' will just to check I didn't miss George but there's no mention of him.

I've had a look on IGI & have found a George Clark baptised 26.01.1800 to Zebulon & Sarah Clark in Icklesham. Was your George definitely born in Rye? Icklesham & Rye are only 5 miles apart. It might be worth researching this George too.

Have you ever tried going to the National Archives website. I've found lots of interesting documents there for my Clarks in the Rye area.

Hope this helps
Liz
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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 January 09 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Liz
My brick wall with this family for a long time was George's son James.  I finally tracked down and received James wedding certificate right before Christmas, and got his fathers name for the first time (George) and occupation (Mariner).  James was in the Coastguard, and on a hunch I looked back at a website that lists as many CG personnel thru the census as it can find.  A George and Maria Clark in Bridlington stood out, George bn c1787 in Rye, Maria bn c1798 in Canterbury.  During the Christmas break I visited the library and tracked down G & M in 1851 and 1841, and found that they were the ones I wanted.  Although the 1841 doesn't give birthplaces, their ages hadn't been rounded at all and still worked out as 1797 and 1798 respectively.  The 1851 said Rye and Canterbury, and again, 1797 and 1798, so that's what I have to go on and that's where I'm at!

Sussex is a new area for me to search, so I'm not yet familiar with the places and their proximities to each other, but I take your point that my George could have been born within spitting distance of Rye, and possibly just classed the town as his birthplace for ease of civil registrations!

So far I've been on TNA website for CG records which are now online, and I've been searching for James, I need to re-look at these records and try and find George in them in the hope that I can get more precise info about him.  What other kinds of Clark records are available and in what areas?  I find the site a bit daunting to search to be honest!!  :D

Thanks for the tips, I'll continue plodding on with George and see what I can unearth.

Brenda
Durham/NBL - Cummin(g)s, Stokoe, Burdess, Embleton, Stirrup, Bewick, Doney, Lumsdon, Laws, Bloomfield, Hunter, Henderson, Mosman
Lancashire - Stirrup, Molyneux, Rudd, Golding
Cambs - Palmer, Butler, Levitt, Golding, Skeel,  Howard, Hancock, Bowers, Norton, Colman, Peachey, Crane
Surrey - Palmer
Berks - Cruttwell, Bunce, Batten
IOW - Roach, Robinson
Cornwall - Doney, Gumb, Goyne
S Wales - Thomas, Dickinson (via Cumbria)
Coastguard Families: Clark, Fuller, Grant

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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 17:19 GMT (UK) »
Philip Clark  was a mate on the Stag cutter in the British Universal Directory  This was a Revenue boat.  I believe Philip was the son Of Philip Clark and Mercy.  He married Mary Machin Staffell in 1788 and has an MI at Rye St Mary with the Staffells  Philip and Mary's children that I've tracked on Ancestry so far are
                             John 10 feb 1789
                             Samuel  7 Sept. 1803
                              Jane Elizabeth  1806
                              Thomas Staffell abt 1795
                              Mercy Waite     abt 1795
 Last three were christened together in 1808 Dec 28  Mary Machin had just had a brother die but Mercy Waite was Philip's mother's name so a puzzle.

  Just found more   Mary Machin Clark  13 April 1791
                               Philip   31 Oct 1792     

Lots of Mariners in this family of Clarks  I am descended from Henry Clark  1759-1832 son of Philip and Mercy.
LizR  in the United States
CLARK Waite Ashley Gravett  Vousden Lilbourn
Daniels Marten Craft Beale Rye Sussex,
Morgan, Pranch, Rees, Thomas Llantrisant, St Fagans, St Lythans Glamorgan
Howell Glamorgan, Pembroke
Davies Glamorgan Merthyr and Llangafelach
Perkin, Beynon  Pembroke
Grey David Thomas Williams Llangyfelach Parish Glamorgan

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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 September 09 11:11 BST (UK) »
Hi, My apologies if I'm out of line...but I'm rather new to all this.  I was just idly posting the name Sabina Clark on the internet and came across this site and your posting.  I don't know if there is any connection but my mother's name is Sabina, and this is such an unusual name.  Her family name is Clark and they originated in Kent, although the name Eldridge creeps in.  I haven't done much research so get a bit lost in trying to follow the various threads, not helped by her mother marrying a Clark relative!  Anyway, thanks and best wishes. 

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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 September 09 22:39 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat  Sorry for the delay  Brenda has blog She's the one with sabina.  I have a Selina Clark b.1816 in Rye to Philip Clark 1787-1854 and Elizabeth Gravett Clark ~1792-1823 Selina and siblings joined their father in Illinois USA in 1825.  Interested in multiple Philip, Thomas, Henry, Richard Clark most maritime occupatios but Henry was a grocer in 1806 when his father Philip died.   LizR
CLARK Waite Ashley Gravett  Vousden Lilbourn
Daniels Marten Craft Beale Rye Sussex,
Morgan, Pranch, Rees, Thomas Llantrisant, St Fagans, St Lythans Glamorgan
Howell Glamorgan, Pembroke
Davies Glamorgan Merthyr and Llangafelach
Perkin, Beynon  Pembroke
Grey David Thomas Williams Llangyfelach Parish Glamorgan

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Re: More Clark's In Rye
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 22:27 BST (UK) »
Hello Soxy
Welcome to the forum!  LizC most definitely has a Sabina in her line, I thought I did but there is now some doubt.  These Clarks were also from Sussex not Kent, but as my Clarks were in the Coastguard Service they ended up in Kent anyway!  Can you post some more info re your Clarks (but not about living people), and maybe we can help you out and decide if we're all looking at the same family or not.

Regards,
Brenda
Durham/NBL - Cummin(g)s, Stokoe, Burdess, Embleton, Stirrup, Bewick, Doney, Lumsdon, Laws, Bloomfield, Hunter, Henderson, Mosman
Lancashire - Stirrup, Molyneux, Rudd, Golding
Cambs - Palmer, Butler, Levitt, Golding, Skeel,  Howard, Hancock, Bowers, Norton, Colman, Peachey, Crane
Surrey - Palmer
Berks - Cruttwell, Bunce, Batten
IOW - Roach, Robinson
Cornwall - Doney, Gumb, Goyne
S Wales - Thomas, Dickinson (via Cumbria)
Coastguard Families: Clark, Fuller, Grant