Thank you Gortonboy for your suggestion, I'm quite confused with the Lenz/Miller's.
Maybe someone out there has the death certificate of Caspar Miller 1860 ??
It isn't really my family but connected by Elizabeth Hoffman who married Casper Lenz (sister to my Conrad Hoffman).
I have a few certificates of the Lenz family and it's either Lenz or double barrelled Lenz Miller. Henry son of (Casper and Elizabeth) birth cert. he was Lenz married as Lenz but on his death certificate he was Miller Lenz and 1881 census Henry was Miller Long.
It has been suggested to me that John Miller on the 1861 census is actually Casper Lenz.
To anglicise the name Lenz to Miller mmm not to sure about that when they could have changed it to Long
I have been fascinated by this family, mainly Henry b: 1845 through everything Henry Lenz has beat all the odds and come out the other end a professor of music and even wrote an opera "The Drummer's Daughter" which was shown in Manchester and hailed a success.
Cheers
