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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #72 on: Monday 12 January 09 06:28 GMT (UK) »

cando,  I like your line of thinking  :D

I think the bigamy thought might be close but from the dates
we have it would seem she HAS committed bigamy.
Ellen married Alexander 1878 and John C Tapley didn't die until 1896.

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #73 on: Monday 12 January 09 06:38 GMT (UK) »
Oh  I  see what you are trying to say ( I think)  that having committed bigamy  she didn't want to register  the childrens births.

But  then  maybe  the old man did a runner and she had to wait  to have him declared dead etc?

A  quick recap   she had a few kids to Tapley  up  to 1865  and a couple of deaths for children in 1870. 

Then  she has at least 5 children to Alex Chrystie. from about 1876 owards,   So she was a fertile woman and you  would have  thought if there was a husband on  the scene you  would expect more births?

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #74 on: Monday 12 January 09 06:44 GMT (UK) »
Jen...Catherine or another child was born ?1876...haven't got time to re-read thread.  Alexander was b. 1872 according to the info from Box Hill Cem.

Sorry Raylen...as usual the mind races....she didn't register the chn as she had committed bigamy...not legally married .....Why the change to the name to Eveline :-\

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #75 on: Monday 12 January 09 07:29 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if a copy of the inquest of  the  two little TAPLEY children who drowned might throw some light on  the matter.  I guess the marriage might have suffered after such a tragic loss.

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #76 on: Monday 12 January 09 07:46 GMT (UK) »
regarding

TAPLEY William Herbert
Father John Cowell  Mother Ellen DARCY
At Williamstown   1865   Reg#12334

I  cannot see a death mentioned for  him.

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #77 on: Monday 12 January 09 22:54 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if a copy of the inquest of  the  two little TAPLEY children who drowned might throw some light on  the matter.  I guess the marriage might have suffered after such a tragic loss.

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This has been suggested before reply no 64.

A perhaps a certificate or two for facts as well. 

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #78 on: Monday 12 January 09 23:03 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if a copy of the inquest of  the  two little TAPLEY children who drowned might throw some light on  the matter.  I guess the marriage might have suffered after such a tragic loss.

Jenn

This has been suggested before reply no 64.

A perhaps a certificate or two for facts as well. 

Terra

Yes Terra  I  had  read  that  but  was more or less thinking out aloud as  to  whether or  not  the drownings of  the two little ones did indeed affect  the marriage.

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 02:20 GMT (UK) »
There is this death but it is the year following Ellen Darcy/Eveline marriage to Alexander CHRYSTIE :-\ :-\ 

Death
TAPLEY John
Father John Taylor  Mother Harriet WOOLCOCK
59 years  Born Kent   1879  Reg#1228

However there are two John TAPLEY's on the indexes, and one has Cowell as a 2nd given name.  This could be the John TAPLEY's [whose death is above], marriage reg

TAPLEY
John
BANKS Caroline
1852   Reg#3740
Denomination Methodist/Wesleyan  Parish Melbourne  Fiche 897

The 'other' John Tapley

1856 electoral roll  John Tapley  Collins Street East  Supt of Dept   Salary  Immigration Dept.  £600

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Re: Alexander CHRYSTIE - missing daughters
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 03:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,

Thanks terra for your info.  It all helps.

Well.....I bit the bullet and bought some certificates.
I’ve just summarised all the important things and as you will see
there are many errors/discrepancies/or little white lies


Alexander Chrystie Death Certificate
Died 17-12-1916 Cottage Street,Blackburn Age 77 years
Father - William  Mother - Catherine Selina Wade
Born-Dunmow,Scotland  In Victoria 56 years
Informant - Funeral Director
Marriage 1: Evelyn D’arcy   Place: Unknown Age: abt 34years
Children: Kathleen Selina b c1874, Geo Wade b c1878, Mary Alice b c1881,
Walter William b c1885, Charles Alex - dead
Marriage 2: Alethea Blanche Tuck   Place: Melbourne  Age: 63 years
Child: Margaret Evelyn  b c1905

Evelyn Chrystie Death Certificate
Died 26-11-1901 Junction Road, Blackburn  Age 62 years
Father & Mother - Unknown    Born-Devon,England  In Victoria 36 years
Marriage: Alexander Chrystie  Place: Deniliquin  Age: abt 30years
Informant- A C Chrystie(son)
Children: Alexander Charles b  c1871, Catherine Selina b  c1873,
Geo Wade b  c1875, Mary Alice b  c1880, Walter William b  c1884

Marriage certificate to follow

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