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Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« on: Tuesday 13 January 09 21:24 GMT (UK) »
I would be grateful of any help regarding the above families. They were mainly travelling showmen (or related to them). I have my Grand Mother - Druscilla Pettigrove - as daughter of Richard Pettigrove and Mary Ann (Polly) Lee.

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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 14:09 GMT (UK) »
I found this site might help you it mentions family of Pettigrove
near london
In the carnival business, or in British English "Traveling Showmen."

It does mention a James Pettigrove who had sons Richard & James ? maybe your line or if not worth checking to see if you can get help from other Pettigrove researchers

http://www.personal.psu.edu/jwd6/pettigro.htm



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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:  Polly (Mary Ann) Lee, daughter of Thomas LEE, married Richard PETTIGROVE, 1892, Canterbury Kent.  Son George Pettigrove was born March 1896.
 

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USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help, I will have a look and see what else I can find  :)

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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 January 09 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Pettigrove

Druscilla Pettigrove was the last child of Richard Pettigrove and Polly aka( MaryAnn) ne: Lee.

Richard was the son of Charles Pettigrove  aka Frost and Maria Hornby

Charles the son of Richard Pettigrove and Charlotte Yelding
sister to Emma Fosset was mother to Sir Robert Fossett - also have Yelding and Lee details on request.

Druscilla Pettigrove  was the sister to my Grandad George Pettigrove

Children and Parents in 1911 census:

PETTIGROVE, RICHARD HEAD MARRIED  M 40 SHOWMAN BEXLEY KENT     
PETTIGROVE, POLLY WIFE MARRIED 19 F 38  ASHFORD KENT     
PETTIGROVE, POLLY DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 17  CANTERBURY KENT     
PETTIGROVE, EMILY DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 15  DOVER KENT     
PETTIGROVE, MARIA DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 13  CANTERBURY KENT     
PETTIGROVE, MATHA DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 11  CHALLOCK KENT     
PETTIGROVE, GEORGE SON SINGLE  M 14  FAVERSHAM KENT     
PETTIGROVE, CHARLES SON SINGLE  M 5  RUCKINGE KENT     
PETTIGROVE RICHARD Address CARAVAN MEADOW FAVERSHAM County Kent
District Faversham Subdistrict Faversham

I also have the census returns back to 1841 for the Lee and Pettigrove family - the Pettigrove family being missing from 1901 census
There are another six children to the family of Richard and Polly:

Polly married name was  George
Emily married name Turner died 1956
George - my gdad
Maria - - Married to Jacob Rossiter
Martha *married to Henry Clubb - died aged 21/2 
Patience - married name Hills
Richard- married to Louisa died 1981
Sally - married to Beaney
Charles * died aged 22 Woodchurch Kent  * B@ Aylesford
Louise - married to Miles
Nora-married to Penfold 
Drusilla-married to Sudds

This listing was first given to me by Aunt Drusilla herself in 1990 when I was first tracing the family.

Apart from the Turner/Clubb/Miles lines I have contact with most of the other families.

I also believe that the daughter of Martha is still alive and would
love to make contact.  Drusilla was left without her mother as Polly died in 1918 and Richard lived to over 90. I have grave details and photos. 

You should note that the details on the Pettigrove site mentioned are not up to date and some details are not correct

I have taken years to sort these out but not yet finished. This is not helped by the following in my line:
George Pettigrove my Gdad - married  my GM Eliza Priscillia Baker - they were "cousins"
Ahnentafel Chart; With myself  being No: 1     (BUT  NOT using my Mums line in this example) this makes the following relatives:
Rita = 1
William = 2
George Petitgrove = 4
Eliza Baker = 5
Richard Pettigrove = 8
Mary Ann (Polly) Lee = 9
William Baker = 10
Priscilia Bundock = 11
Thomas Lee =16
Sarah/Matilda Baker = 17
Charles Frost Pettigrove 18
Maria Horby = 19
 
 


I have also researched the Rossiter and Keefes...I look forward to hearing from anyone who can help or wants help
Rita




Pettigrove. - any area and country.
Lee. Gypsy - Kent area .
Yelding.Hornby.Frost. Fossett,Travelling showmen and circus connections.
Adams.Tomlin.Penfold.Rossiter. Baker.Keefe.Allen my Kent connections.
Baker - Canterbury
Tanner. Eastbourne and  Horsham area.
Rout . Brighton

Whitehead- Burnley Lancs.

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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 January 09 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Also I should add that the Pettigrove family became Travelling Showmen - starting out as farmers in the West country and moving to London. The Yeldings were showmen starting with "Wax Works" and married into Circus/Fair but the Lee side was Gypsy. I am proud of the fact that I am Gypsy.
Pettigrove. - any area and country.
Lee. Gypsy - Kent area .
Yelding.Hornby.Frost. Fossett,Travelling showmen and circus connections.
Adams.Tomlin.Penfold.Rossiter. Baker.Keefe.Allen my Kent connections.
Baker - Canterbury
Tanner. Eastbourne and  Horsham area.
Rout . Brighton

Whitehead- Burnley Lancs.

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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 March 09 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spursbird,


I am related to the Yelding family but don't know if it is the same one, My grandfather was Mark Yelding born in 1910 and his parents were John Yelding sometimes known as Jack and Priscilla Lee, They married in 1900 but last name was spelt wrong Yielding on marriage cert.
I would love to find out more about that side of my family as Me and my Mum have started to trace the family tree, My Mum always thought that the Yelding's were gypsies but when trying to trace them people do not know the Yelding name as travellers, so it would make more sence if they were showmen.
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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 March 09 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Appletree

This could be them in the 1891 census at Mitcham in Surrey

John HALDEN head mar 28 cutler b.Ramsgate Kent
Priscilla wife 25 b.Chatham Kent
Emily dau 5 b.Greenwich Kent
John son 3 b.Dulwich Surrey
Bella dau 7m b.Packham Wood Kent

RG12/601 folio 14 page 37
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This family appear to be on the 1911 census (YEALDING in Croydon) but you will need to pay to see the details http://www.1911census.co.uk/

Do you have a copy of John and Priscilla's marriage to give, hopefully, the names and occupations of their respective fathers?

Many of the YELDINGs (and variants) later became HILDENs - they sound very similar with a silent "H" and there were YELDINGs in/from Kent (now HILDENs) who were travellers (not showmen).  I think your mum is right - mention the name HILDEN to any Kentish travelling family and they will recognise it ;)

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Re: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 March 09 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Casalguidi,
Thank you very much for the information I had a look on the 1911 census and they are my family . The family name is spelt Yelding now.
                       Thank you once again  Appletree