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Offline Lindyloowho

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BOOTES, 1891
« on: Thursday 29 January 09 01:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi:

I'm looking for a BOOTES family in 1891, who in 1881 were living in St. Lawrence, Ramsgate area.

Benjamin b 1833 in Rye, Sussex, wife Elizabeth b 1839 in South Africa and children Charles b1863, Margaret 1864, Kate 1867, Amos 1868, Hannah 1871, Frederick 1873, William 1873 and Arthur 1877. Last four children born in Kent, first ones born in Rye, Sussex.

Thank you, Linda

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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 January 09 03:00 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Benjamin had died by 1891

6 Dunmark?? Rd, St Lawrence
Elizabeth BOOTS, head widow 52, born Cape of Good Hope
Katherine BOOTS, dau s 24, Charwoman, born Sussex, Rye
Frederick BOOTS, son s 18, General labourer, born Kent, Deal
RG12/732/F69/P13

Possibly Benjamin's death
Benjamin Josiah BOOTS, Dec qtr 1888, Thanet, 2a 495, age 58

1901
24 Winstanley Cres, St Lawrence
Helen BOUGHTON, head wid 70, Living on own means, born Kent, Whitstable
Elizabeth BOOTES, wid 62, Living on own means, born South Africa, cape Town
RG13/827/F106/P15

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CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare

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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 January 09 03:12 GMT (UK) »
Looks like there was a son James as well born 1860 in Rye.

He is in St Lawrence in 1901, with wife Margaret and brother Arthur aged 24 born Deal. He is with Benjamin and Elizabeth at Rye in 1861 aged 1, 1881 at sea. Can't see him in 1891, or Arthur.

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CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare


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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 January 09 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Ian - very much appreciated.

Amos is my line and I have him in city directories in later years living in Winstanley Crescent - perhaps it was the family home.

Linda

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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 January 09 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

This looks like the service record for James, which might help place him in 1891,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/05f1/



In 1871 there is also a Benj J age 9, born Rye Sussex, whivch looks like,

Benjamin Josiah Bootes    JAS Q 1861    Rye    2b  5

Maybe his service record, although the DOB is a year out :-\

http://www.rootschat.com/links/05f2/

In 1881 he is here,  RG11/5639  f.61  p.6  an ordinary seaman aboard Hms Encounter, the enumeration page for her says she was in Hong Kong, China.

It looks like he came home and got married,

Benjamin Josiah BOOTS    OND Q 1889     St Saviour Southwark    1d  22
Ruth Ann CARVER with same details.


1891  RG12/377  f.99  p.4  Bermondsey, London
75 Rowel Rd

Benjamin J BOOTS    Head    M    29    Craneman  Mach    Sussex Rye
Ruth A                    Wife    M    31                               London Blackwall
Charles F                 Son            2    Scholar                   "  "    Bermondsey   


1901  RG13/387  f.7  p.6  &  f.8  p.7  Horselydown, London
Hanover Bldgs 119

Benj J BOOTES      Head    M    39    Hydraulic Crane Driver    Sussex Rye     
Ruth A                 Wife    M    41                                       Poplar London
Chas F                   Son         12                                     
Henry G                 Son           9                                            
Alice E                  Daur          7                                              
Hannah                 Daur          5                                            
Fred T                    Son         3                                             
Caroline E              Daur         2                                             
Katie                    Daur          3m                 All children born London Horselydown
   


It looks like Charles has got married,

Charles Edward BOOTES    AMJ Q 1890     St Saviour Southwark    1d  47
Maria PERRY with same details.

In 1891 he is here,  RG12/652  f.155  age 28, married, seaman from Rye Sussex, aboard the Eastward, a fishing boat off Gravesend. I think the enumeration page for her shows her home port is Hull but she's going to Billingsgate.


Oooh, I think I've found some more of the family (including James from above) living here with Maria, transcribed at Anc... as BOOKS  :) It looks like Charles has been recorded twice, but if you think of Maria answering the questions while her husband is away fishing I think it looks too much like 'your' BOOTES family to be anyone else ;D
 
1891  RG12/375  f.10  p.12  Bermondsey London
41 Newchurch St

Charles Edw BOO?S      Head    M    28    Fisherman      Sussex Rye
Maria                          Wife    M    22                       London Westminster
Caroline H         Sister-in-law    S    21                        Kent Sandwich
William            Brother-in-law   S    18    Engine Driver    Kent Deal
James H                 "    "               31    Fisherman          Sussex Rye
Arthur E                 "    "               14        "    boy        Kent Deal

 
In 1901 Caroline is still living with them,

1901 RG13/393  f. 29  p.49  Bermondsey, London
124 Storks Rd
//
Charlotte TRODD?      Head    W    78                                      Cambs Cambridge    deaf
Ethel L GUNNER    Grandaur    S     16  Apprentised Type writer    "  "    Chesterton 
/     
Charles E BOOTES    Head    M    38    Market Porter            Sussex Rye
Maria                      Wife    M    32                                     London Westminster
Hilda A                    Daur    S     4                                         "  "    Bermondsey
Caroline H              Sister    S     30    Needlewoman Skirt      Kent Sandwich 
//



Ok off to make some hot chocolate, I'll see if I can find the others in a minute,

Regards
Daisy
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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 January 09 03:23 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Margaret got married,

Margaret Sarah BOOTES    AMJ Q 1886    Thanet    2a  1419
John PETTITT  with same details.


1891  RG12/732  f.89  p.5  St Lawrence, Kent
Boundary Road
Finsbury Terrace 11

John PETTITT     Head    M    28    Tailor              Monmouthshire Usk 
Margaret            Wife    M    27                          Sussex Rye
Margaret            Daur           4                           Kent Ramsgate
Kate                  Daur          2                                "        "  "
William                Son           5months                       "        "  "
Thomas Fuller  Lodger    S    21  Bricklayers Labourer    "  Minster
 


Catherine, Ian has found in 1891, then marries,

Catherine Daniel BOOTES    JFM Q 1894    Thanet    2a  1305
Charles Edward WOODWARD with same details.

1901  RG13/827  f.154  p.18  St Lawrence Intra, Kent
12 Theodore Ter?

Charles E WOODWARD   Head    M    34    General Labourer    Kent Ramsgate
Catherine D                  Wife    M    33                              Sussex Rye
Alice L                         Daur         10 
Charles E                      Son           6 
Catherine D                  Daur           4 
Ethel M                       Daur            3 
William J                       Son            8 months 
Ernest A                       Son            8 months        All children born Kent Ramsgate



Amos has also married,

Amos BOOTES    OND Q 1887    Thanet    2a  1707
Eliza CHEESEMAN
Elizabeth Ann DENNIS 
Edward Davis PINCHIN with same details.

I think he married Eliza CHEESEMAN as in 1901 I can see a widowed Elizabeth PINCHIN with her mother Elizabeth DENNIS.


Transcribed at Anc... as BOOK, looks like BOOTS :)

1891  RG12/732  f.126  p.21  St Lawrence, Kent
25 Thornton Rd

Amos BOOTS    Head    M    23    Bricklayers Labourer      Kent Deal
Eliza A              Wife    M    23                                       "    Dover
Amos A             Son            2                                       "    Ramsgate   


I think the Hannah you mention who is on the 1881 census, is the Caroline A from 1871, and the Caroline I have found in 1891 and 1901 with her brother Charles and family.

Birth
Caroline Hannah BOOTES   JFM Q 1870    Eastry    2a  895


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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 January 09 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Gosh Daisy what can I say? ;D

Many, many thanks - I appreciate your help.

Linda

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Re: BOOTES, 1891
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 March 17 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

I think I am a direct decendent of Amos Bootes. I have the same surname and his name has appeared in my own searches. He was never spoken about by my grand father (Ernest Frederick Bootes) at all according to my father Allan Leslie Bootes as he left the family home while my grand father was quite young.

My family is based in Ramsgate still and can try and answer any questions you may have.