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Aghadown: McCarthy
« on: Monday 02 February 09 23:02 GMT (UK) »
My ancestors appear to hail from Aghadown near Skibbereen. Those born in Ireland, before they moved to London, include Catherine about 1842, Honora about 1848, and Michael about 1851. Their father was John, born about 1814. He married a Jane (possibly Regan) from Dublin. Does anyone know how I can move forward (or, rather, backward) with this family?
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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 March 18 15:49 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
My 2nd Great Grandfather was John McCarthy, married to Jane (maybe Regan).
Did you find any more info on them such as when they were married? 
They were my Great Grandfather, John Stephen McC's parents. I reckon they moved to London in about 1850? He was their 4th child, born in Holborn in about 1856, but I can't find a birth record for him.
I see you have the Whytes in your family too.  John Stephen McC married Eliza Jane Whyte.
Be grateful for any info you have on this strand of the family.
Kind regards

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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 March 18 17:41 BST (UK) »
Hi, good to hear from you.

My great grandfather John McCarthy married Eliza Jane Whyte 29th July 1882 at St. Monica's chapel, Hoxton. John was baptised 18th February 1855 at the church of the Holy Family, Saffron Hill, London  and died 19th November 1929 in north London. John's father was also John McCarthy, born in Ireland about 1814. John and Eliza Jane had eight children as far as I know: John, Eliza, Catherine, Nora, Justin Joseph, George Whyte (my grandfather), Joseph M, and Mary Agnes.

Are we related?
James McCarthy
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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 March 18 18:35 BST (UK) »
Hi James
Yes we are related, Joseph Maurice McC was George Whyte McC's brother (Joseph is my grandfather).
Like you I discovered that John and Eliza were married in St Monica's (I have a marriage cert), and that John Stephen died in Archway/Highgate in 1929 (Have his death cert).
I cannot find the birth record for John Stephen, have you got a copy of a birth cert for him? Another child, Patrick was born to John and Jane he was born in 1858.
I was in Cork last summer and visited the Skibbereen Heritage Centre where, with their help, we came to the conclusion that Jane was born Regan, and we found some Parish birth records for Catherine, Honora and Michael!
Do you have a tree on Ancestry?
We may be able to answer some of each others questions!
Catherine



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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 March 18 22:58 BST (UK) »
Dear Catherine

This is very interesting. I think the family cannot have been very close in previous generations; my father did not know of any McCarthy cousins.

I can't answer all your questions with certainty as my computer hard drive broke in January and I have not located my family history disc which would allow me to see all the detailed information I have. However I am fairly sure that John Stephen's birth is not recorded at the GRO. This did happen, that births were sometime not registered, and I imagine it happened more frequently in poor Irish families than some others. I found his baptism in the parish records after finding a clue in the civil service evidence of age records on findmypast; this gives his date of birth as 17th February 1855; these records  also have his brother Pat born 12th March 1858. I think the reason they are on these records is that they worked for the post office. The parish record of the church of the Holy Family confirms this birth date for John and gives his mother's maiden name as Regan. The patrons (godparents) were Dionysius (i.e. Denis) Burke and Elizabeth Dwyer. The 1851 census has an Elizabeth Dwyer born in Cork living in Freeman Street, Spitalfields, aged 20.

Do you have records of the Whyte family and of John Stephen's siblings marriages? If not I can fill in some details.

It's great that you got to Skibbereen and found records of Catherine, Honora and Michael. I'd be interested to know more. I haven't been to Ireland (republic of) for over 50 years!

I live in York and would be happy to exchange documents if you wish. I have other information which is best shared away from this site.

Thank you for making contact.

James

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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 March 18 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi James

Thank you for the extra info, a great help.

I can give you more info about the McCarthys, not so much on the Whytes.  We could compare what we have.

Is there a direct message service on here ? ( I only joined yesterday so still finding my way around).  Perhaps email may be a better way to share our info?

Catherine

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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 March 18 14:11 BST (UK) »
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0096  Skibbereen

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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 March 18 14:19 BST (UK) »
Church  Marriage results for John McCarty from 1830 to 1850
Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - AUGHADOWN

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Re: Aghadown: McCarthy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 March 18 14:32 BST (UK) »
 Marriage results for John McCarty from 1830 to 1855
1840s with wife Jane

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