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Offline Gregorsmum

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 February 09 22:55 GMT (UK) »
So sorry - Thomas Evans born 1903 in Llandilofawr - other kids Albert 1906, Gwyn 1908 and youngest was Muriel 1911 - all Llandilofawr. Thanks

Family insist she came from Worcestershire and went back to live in Leighsinton area after she was widowed - and wher eshje is understood to have died - cannot find death record either - under Isabella Evans, Isabel Evans, Annie Evans. No-one quite sure when but mum recalls her well and she was born in 1932 - so I guessed about 9/10 years later as a starting point.   
Evans, Davies, Howells.

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 February 09 23:02 GMT (UK) »
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just looked up variations of Isabel, Isabella and both Davies and Davis between 1872 and 1874 - and could not find one in Worcestershire.

The 2 births I showed above were both in Worcestershire

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/wor.htm

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I had those two births but they don't match her father's name on her marriage certificate


This gives the impression that you had bought both the 1872 and 1874 birth certs but the father wasn't James

If you don't have the birth certs - how do you know the father(s) weren't James

Is it possible she was illegitimate and made up a fathers name for marriage purposes?

There is an 1881 entry for an Annie Davis aged 8 b Doddenham living with grandmother Mary.  There is an unmarried daughter Fanny aged 29 in the household


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Does James Davies have a stated occupation?
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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 February 09 23:10 GMT (UK) »
I am so sorry if I gave the wrong impression there about the certificates - I am very new to this and only joined this site this week so please excuse that slip. James Davies is a General Labourer.   
Evans, Davies, Howells.

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 February 09 23:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

It's not a problem - we just need to have all the facts so we can decide how best to help you - particularly with a surname like Davies. 

Don't worry - we will do our best to find her for you.  I know it must seem like we are giving you the 3rd degree - but it's with the very best of intentions
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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 February 09 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Family insist she came from Worcestershire and went back to live in Leighsinton area after she was widowed

I have just been looking at the 1901 census entry.
(RG13 5102 25 1, Wales)

and see that she gives her place of birth as Worcestershire. So it is not just a family story that she was born there.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 February 09 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Of the two Isabella births that Carole found, this looks like the Dudley one in 1891 (unfortunately doesnt show fathers name!)-

RG12 2408 19 31
Aston Birmingham
Ann M Davies 57 widow
Elizabeth 23 dtr Umbrella maker
Sarah 25 dtr Button maker
Isabella 18 Umbrella maker
Susannah 15 dtr

all bn Dudley
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 February 09 09:21 GMT (UK) »
1881 doesnt give her father either!

RG11 2878 38 26
31 Vauxhall Street Dudley
Ann M Davis 47 widow Charwoman
Mary A 20 dtr domestic servant
MAria 18 dtr           "
Sarah 15 dtr Daily servant
Charlotte 13 dtr
Isabella 9
Susannah 5
Elizabeth 2 mths MaryAnn's daughter

all born Dudley.

(What a helpful enumerator, listing baby Elizabeth specifically as Mary Ann's daughter, rather than the more correct but less helpful "grandaughter")

Looking at the  children's ages, dad MUST have been around in 1871 .......
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 February 09 09:37 GMT (UK) »
.... but I cant find any of them in 1871, under any name.

So havent ruled the Dudley one in or out, as I had hoped.

Grrr
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Isabella Annie Davies or Annie Isabel Davies
« Reply #17 on: Friday 06 February 09 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Isabella 9

IGI extracted baptism:

Isabella DAVIES
born 5 Jun 1872
baptised 4 July 1872 St Thomas, Dudley


Daughter of John DAVIES and Ann Maria

Also baptised on the same day were sisters Ann Maria (b 1862) and Mary Ann (b 1860).

I guess this rules out this family if you're looking for a father called James.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)