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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 February 09 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Also a John Lawrence in Merriott on the 1861, aged 63, a labourer (as yours was in 1851) but his wife is a Mary  :-\

RG9/1638 F 50  p 8

Worth checking for the death of an Ann

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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 February 09 15:20 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 possible deaths showing for an Ann Lawrence, Chard:

June Q, 1852, vol 5c page 334

Dec q, 1858, vol 5c page 346



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added -getting stranger the John/Mary combination are on the 1841 in Merriott (both aged 45)  HO107/940 bk 5 Folio 28 Page 19
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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 February 09 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget,
Thanks again for your help and sorry for the delay, i've just been to pick the kids up from school.

Well, it looks like i've got the wrong birth cert for George.

Do you think i'm right about him not being Ann's son in the 1851 census?

Here's the 1861 census: RG9; Piece: 1637; Folio: 45; Page: 18

Ann Lawrence Widow age 44 char woman born Dorset Bradford
George Lawrence age 17 ag labourer born Dorset Bradford
Samuel Lawrence age 9 ag labourer born Crewkerne
Henry Lawrence age 4 born Crewkerne

I can't find them on the 1871 census.
Cheers,
Craig


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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 February 09 15:43 GMT (UK) »
If Ann and John didn't marry until 1847, I can't see that he could have been the son of their marriage  :-\

However, George was b. Bradford, Dorset on the 1861 but Crewkerne on the 1851. Could he havebeen Ann's illegitimate son? 

It's tricky - I've been looking for other John Lawrences on the 1841 who would be an alternative but can't see any so far.

Have you  got George on any later censuses at all?

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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 February 09 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Interesting that there are 2 birth registrations for a George King and a George Lawrence King in Sherborne (covering Bradford):

GK - March q, 1842, vol 8 page 10

GLK - June q, 1844, vol 8 page 86


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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 February 09 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

It's a very complicated story of George. I have had to trace him using a "cousin" that i heard about from a relative.

Just to complicate things further the cousin was also called George Lawrence and was the grandson of a Samuel  Lawrence- Samuel is the brother(half brother?) of my Gt Grandfather George.

Here is the 1881 census  of Samuel Lawrence with his family living in Leicestershire:
RG11; Piece: 3124; Folio: 117; Page: 47

Samuel Lawrence mar age 27 general labourer born Somerset Cruckhorn(crewkerne)
Fanny Lawrence mar age ? born Stafford
George Lawrence son age 2 born Stafford
Susannah Lawrence age 6 months born Leicester
(there are alo some lodgers living with them)

Interestingly, next door is his brother, my Gt Grandfather George:

George Lawrence age 36 mar born somerset cruckhorn(crewkerne)
Mary Lawrence mar age 29 born Devon

Just seen your new post, the two George Kings are very interesting. There is a website with the parish registers of Sherborne including Bradford Abbas so i will definately take a look.

Thanks again Gadget for your help, it really is appreciated.
Cheers,
Craig



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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 August 15 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

It's a very complicated story of George. I have had to trace him using a "cousin" that i heard about from a relative.

Just to complicate things further the cousin was also called George Lawrence and was the grandson of a Samuel  Lawrence- Samuel is the brother(half brother?) of my Gt Grandfather George.

Here is the 1881 census  of Samuel Lawrence with his family living in Leicestershire:
RG11; Piece: 3124; Folio: 117; Page: 47

Samuel Lawrence mar age 27 general labourer born Somerset Cruckhorn(crewkerne)
Fanny Lawrence mar age ? born Stafford
George Lawrence son age 2 born Stafford
Susannah Lawrence age 6 months born Leicester
(there are alo some lodgers living with them)

Interestingly, next door is his brother, my Gt Grandfather George:

George Lawrence age 36 mar born somerset cruckhorn(crewkerne)
Mary Lawrence mar age 29 born Devon

Just seen your new post, the two George Kings are very interesting. There is a website with the parish registers of Sherborne including Bradford Abbas so i will definately take a look.

Thanks again Gadget for your help, it really is appreciated.
Cheers,
Craig


Hi,

How did you get on with all of this?

I am looking into a Jane Laurence birth reg 1842 Crewkerne, Somerset, England. Father John, (now the mothers name given by a long deceased family member was Annie Trump, but no sources or proof. ) Absolutely no records so far match, this is the closest. Jane went to Australia very young and married, her first daughter being named Sarah. I was always told Jane was born in Pudding Lane, Taunton, but have never been able to confirm this either.

I wonder if you discovered anything else about the Crewkerne, Laurence's?

Cheers
Del
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Re: can anyone help connect these two Lawrence families in Somerset please?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 July 17 08:11 BST (UK) »
Also a John Lawrence in Merriott on the 1861, aged 63, a labourer (as yours was in 1851) but his wife is a Mary  :-\

RG9/1638 F 50  p 8

Worth checking for the death of an Ann

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This may explain that marriage perhaps. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/8403ca53-040a-4968-bbd3-9b540a909114
Saunders/Sanders,Owen,Owens,Darrach,Wilson, Cardon,Gurney,Edwards, Holmes,Smith, Ohlson,Homewood,Shaw,Semple,Merrill,Smithyman,McCallum,Winslade,Morton,Hill,Donahoe,Inglis, Moore, Morgan, Lawrence/Laurence, Owen, Owens, Skelton,Steele, Caldwell, Wood, Parish,Read,Donaldson, Hill,Farren,Carnley, Bradford, Dugard, Lindsell, Restall, Plus many many more surnames, varied countries