st patricks leeds look up

[ponti]

hi can anyone help . i am looking for edward dalton marrying mary honan or hoonan about 1820 they are my ggg grandparents i am guessing that they was married at st patricks as there children were babtised there  i need there parents names. been stuck for five years any help much appreciated thanks for your help

[CaroleW]

Hi

Fathers names were not shown on marriage entries prior to 1.7.1837 and mothers names are never shown

[Ruskie]

Welcome to rootschat ponti. A few questions if that's OK?

What year was the first child born or christened?

Do you have the family on any censuses? If so does it say where Edward and Mary were born?

[I might be completely wrong here, but the surnames sound Irish  and I'm wondering if you should be looking further afield than Leeds for the marriage.] 

[CaroleW]

If I have the correct 1851 entry - Edward was b in Gibralter

These are the 2 IGI entries but there is another family headed by Edward & Mary Dalton who were in Tadcaster

EDWARD DALTON  Christening:  02 DEC 1832   Saint Patricks 
 
ELIZABETH DALTON  Christening:  12 FEB 1831   Saint Patricks 

1851 for 22 Giles Buildings Leeds

Edward Dalton 50 widower occ cooper b Gibralter - British subject
Edward 17 b Leeds
John 17 b Leeds
William 8 b Leeds

The entries for John & Edward are asterisked - possibly to indicate twins
HO107; Piece: 2319; Folio: 475; Page: 22

Ponti - were there any other children that you know of as I can't find the above family in 1841 to check
 

[ponti]

hi carole
the other children are
cain 1820
john 1834 edward 1834 twins
william 1841
mary 1830
frances 1820 possible twin to cain
eliza 1831
joseph 1839
michael 1837
margaret 1836

1851 census is the right one born gibraltar british citizen giles buildings
best regards margaret

[Ruskie]

Well that's my Irish theory blown out of the water   
 

[Ruskie]

I think they are mistranscribed/mispelled as Daulton in 1841.

[Ruskie]

HO107/1343/25/12

1841
Clay Street Leeds

Edward Daulton 40 cooper (can't make out the squiggle in section where born Scotland,Ireland or foreign parts)
Mary 40 'I' (ie born Ireland)
Edward 8
John 8
Eliza 10
Michael 6
Margaret 15 flax mill
Mary 12 flax mill
Joseph 2
Francis 20 engine man
All others born in county)
Odd order of children 

Just had another look at Edward's squiggle - It's not "I" like Mary's, it's not "S" so it must be "F", as we know he was born in Gibraltar.

What do you think Carole? Reckon Edward's father was a military man? I bet he was Irish ... 

[ponti]

hi ruskie
cant find edward`s or marys parents anywere hit a brick wall cant think of what to do and i appreciate all the help i can get best regards margaret