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Palins from SA
« on: Thursday 12 February 09 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
In a previous post on Winifred Ingram/Williams the RootsChat crew were able to supply me with lots of Palin information.

 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,344063.75.html

I am now trying to complete the Palin line and would like to find more information about the original Palin family that emigrated in 1849.

What I have already on these Palins is:

William Palin born abt. 1816 in Shropshire married Elizabeth Reese born abt 1811 in Shropshire. So far I have not been able to locate a marriage, but I am still looking.
They had three children that have shown up in the 1841 census in England : Elizabeth abt 1838 in Shropshire, William in Shropshire abt 1839 and Emma abt 1840 in Shropshire. I then have them migrating in 1949 on the Orator and settled in South Australia. I don't know how many children they had in total whether in England or Australia.

I would love to know when William (Sen) and Elizabeth (Sen) died or if they had more children, as well as further information on Elizabeth (Jun) and Emma.....I have lots on William (Jun) and his family thanks to the amazing RootsChatters community.

Many thanks

Susie



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Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 February 09 12:59 GMT (UK) »
I have an interest in Emma Palin (b.c1838) who married Alfred King and William Atkins.  Her father was listed as William on her marriage record, but I have not researched her any further to date.  If this is your Emma, she married Alfred KING, 4 May 1857,in St James Church, Blakiston SA  her age: 19   his age: 20. (Mount Barker 30/169)
They had
 Child 1: Emma KING 
               Born: 16 Mar 1859 in Strathalbyn SA  (STR 16/385)
Child 2: Alfred William KING 
               Born: 29 Jun 1861 in McHargs Creek SA  (STR 23/259)
             
          2nd  Husband: William ATKINS     died at age: 78
            Married:  9 Dec 1868 in Wesleyan Parsonage Pirie St Adelaide SA  3   her age: 30   his age: 31 (Adelaide 77/585)
               Died: 1915                 in Stanthorpe QLD 
            Resided: in Moonta SA, Broken Hill NSW, Warracknabeal VIC, and Roma QLD 
             Father: Joseph ATKINS.
They had children
Child 1: Alexander Edwin (Edward) ATKINS   died at age: 83
               Born: 27 Apr 1869 in Bulls Creek SA  (STR 73/399)
               Died:  6 Oct 1952 in Eastwood SA (NOR 789/5674) 
Child 2: George Herbert ATKINS 
               Born: 20 Nov 1871 in Bulls Creek SA  (str 106/79)
             
Child 3: Sophia Amelia ATKINS 
               Born: 13 Jun 1875 in Karkarilla SA  (DAL 152/391)
             
Child 4: Hilda Adeline ATKINS 
               Born: 29 Nov 1882 in Moonta Mines SA (DAL 294/172)
               

William Palin died 28 Apr 1894, aged 79, at Moonta Mines, SA (Daly 218/465) .
Hope this helps.
 
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Zibell - Prussia, Australia
Frankham - Keynesham, London, Australia
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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 February 09 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Susie,

I do not see any births to this couple in SA.

PeeCeeBee has well covered Emma  ;D and provided Williams Death, (no relative was recorded) Buried Moonta http://www.coppercoast.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=24894 as was his son William. I do not see Elizabeth.


BISA


KING Alfred Par T b c1837 occ farm lab res Strathalbyn mar 4 May 1857 Blakiston Emma nee PALIN father W b c 1838.

I do note William and Clara married at the home of Alfred King.  ;)

Now there is an illigitimate birth here - 2 months after William married  :-\

PALIN William 27 Nov 1860 Strathalbyn Dist Str Symbol X 21 405 Parents William Palin and Elizabeth Wallis (also see Wallis)

Only a very small entry in BISA for son William - nothing at all for parents

PALIN William b c1839 died 8 May 1874 bd Moonta SA arrived by 1872 Occ Farmer Res Strathalbyn York Valley

Also noted a birth in Ballarat Vic

PALIN Thomas William 1861 13590 parents William PALIN and Clara LLOYD

Possible marriage for Elizabeth

SOLLY John 35 Status N father John = PALIN Mary Elizabeth 20 Status N father William 1857-04-17 Res of Rev J B Austin Lashbrooke Dist Str 30 11

Not having any joy with anything further on them  :'(

Cheers Kris  :D
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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 February 09 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Susie and PeeCeeBee,

More information here and a reli  ;D

It appears Elizabeth died before William and the children immigrated.

http://www.geocities.com/jennycamilleri/Palin.html

immigration does not list Elizabeth

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1849Orator.htm

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 February 09 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,
.....and I wake up to a plethora of new Palin rellies...........many thanks.  ;D ;D

I Have now read about Elizabeth's death in England and the family moving to SA........he was a grocer in England, and I think that he became a miner here. I will digest all of this fabulous information and get back to you if I have any more questions.

Again, many thanks from a very happy chappy :D :D :D

Cheers
Susie
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Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 July 16 12:13 BST (UK) »
Susie,
I've been researching Sophia Amelia ATKINS Born: 13 Jun 1875 in Karkarilla SA  (DAL 152/391).
Sophia was my great, great grandmother.
I was wondering if you found any additional information regarding William & Elizabeth Palin?
Thanks in advance,
Paul

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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 13:52 GMT (UK) »
I have lots of information about William Palin as I’m a descendant of his . I still reside in Moonta where our family moved to from Broken Hill after emigrating from the ( Salisbury Plain is only info I have) . He was a farmer and blacksmith . Palins still farm at Maitland not far from here where they ended up . I can post lists of children ect tomorrow as it’s late at night now and I’ve just found this . Very excited to be able to add to the information I have too

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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 November 18 02:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donna :)

Welcome to rootschat :)

There are many public trees on Ancestry about Wm and his descendants.  Perhaps you should contact those owners so save duplicating information here.  I may add some are incorrect eg Elizabeth having children after her death ::) ::)

Link to Wm's and his children's arrival in SA.  The link in the thread no longer works.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/BSA/1849Orator.htm

An aside - my husband's father's family settled initially at Kilkerran and Balgowan. His gggrandfather is buried in the Maitland cemetery and gggrandmother at Kadina.   No descendants in the area today.  Mother's ancestors from around Kadina.  All many years ago now.

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Re: Palins from SA
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 November 18 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donna, we must be related then!
William is my ggggggrandfather, his daughter married William Atkins who had a daughter Sophia - also born in Moonta.

Sophia had a rough life, she married a deadbeat called George Roberts and had my Great Grandmother Mary Roberts (went by her step fathers name of Parish) in Broken Hill before divorcing him in 1900 and marrying Samuel Parish in 1902 and having 3 more children.
Interestingly Mary was always known to me as Nanna Parish, I knew nothing of the Roberts link before researching my tree.

As for William and Elizabeth I believe that they were from the Shropshire area. I have them married in Wolverhampton in 1837 and living at Queen St Broseley with 3 children in the 1841 census.
In their marriage registry William’s father is John (farmer) and Elizabeth’s father Samuel (Keeper).