SHEEHAN (Seaham) JOHNSTON (Whitehaven)

[Elz]

Had some fantastic news! I have found someone with half the same tree!!! Its the right Sheehan/Carvels back to John and sarah Sheehan in 1843.

The John Sheehan that went to Wallsend had these children:

John
Daniel
Eleanor
Mary(Gladys)
Edward
Vincent.
Two were twins, but as I found twins which confirmed had died at Wallsend tis could be what the family meant.

I am overjoyed to have found living relatives!!! Who knew my Grandad.

So Edward and Vincent may be the ones with Carver as middle names. Its confusing about the spellings.

So now the search from 1843 backwards!

Many thanks for all your help!
Elz x

[Elz]

Is it likely that people coming to West Cumberland came to Whitehaven  and is there a certain ship that was used ?

[Michael Dixon]

  1911 CENSUS
  Egremont
   All SHEEHAM*
   Eliza 38
   John 14
   DANIEL** 12
   Ellen 8
   Mary Gladys 5
   Edward Carver 2

 Last two born in Egremont, Ellen born in Wallsend.

*   **   Elz I hope you don't have a fit when you see the " variations"  I know how fragile you are. LOL      The SheehaM might be error of 1911 or by modern-day transcriber- but you can see the actual sheet that head of house ( Eliza ??)
completed.  ?? David or Daniel ??.

You will have to have a "proper" look at the 1911 census as op[posed to my cheap "glance", to gert the full details.
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So with Ellen/Eleanor born in Wallsend, then living in Egremont area by about
 1906 ( Egremont birth of Mary Gladys), did she later go eastwards to Seaham to allow future husband Robert to make long walks to see her ?

Michael Dixon

[Elz]

Yes, the very last thing I was expecting was another surname change    I am wondering if this Seaham thing is a red herring  now I see Sheeham...maybe thats their surname on the 1921 census 

Ha ha, oh well, at least the family tree is expanding and the puzzle continues... I wonder where John has gone... dead or back to work somewhere else.

 Has the 1911 census just come out this week? Thanks for the look up!

[Michael Dixon]

 Elz,

   This is not a "surname change".  This is a typical but minor error by folk, or officials of the day or modern transcribers.

 If you pay the 1911 census fee, you will be able to see the census form that someone in the household filled in for the census enumerator.  In all previous censuses we were unable to access the sheet filled in by our ancestors.

Also the sheet will reveal Eliza's marital status.  I could easily have missed him, when I was using the "free" facilty in the 1911 web site!

 On the 1881 census there was over 30 different spellings of my mother's Gallagher family.. My mother from the time I was a child  used to say "we are " ..gh.."  , not  to be confused with that "..cher.." lot. 

 So I spent many months researching GALLAGHER, ignoring, rejecting info on other versions. Can you imagine how foolish I felt when I discovered that her folk were Galliker, Gallagar, Gallaghar etc, before they eventually settled on the GALLAGHER version.

Michael Dixon




 

[anthony pearson]

hi
my name is anthony pearson one of my family members married a rachael /rachel johnston/johnson
from whitehaven we do not know who here mother or father are
she married in 1865 to a william pearson from oldham lanchsire
they moved to northeast of uk

[Ecneps]

Hi Anthony,

It might be worth starting a new post about Rachel so as not to get it confused with this one.  Do you have her marriage certificate to William Pearson, that should tell you her father's name and occupation, which should help find her family in the census.  If you start a new post giving all the details you already have and what you would like to know, someone may be able to help

Kind regards
Barbara

added:
I see you have already been given some ideas about Rachel's parents from GeoffE on this thread  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,246748.msg2459695.html#msg2459695

[Sharron Batey]