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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 02:35 GMT (UK) »
I suspect that East Fenton today is probably still one big farm and not a town or village  per se?  Glad to be of help myself, for a change....

I don't think it was even that big to be classed a village! I doubt there was more than a few cottages spread throughout the area, with most of the land being taken up by farming use. I have a few ancestors that stayed in the area and they were all argricultural workers. If you wanted anything else, you moved to the city. ;D


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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 03:27 GMT (UK) »
Dirleton Kirk is called Dirleton Kirk.
It's on my list of to dos.  To contact the church and find out a bit more of it's history.

Chapel, the place?  Like Fenton, I'd only ever heard of it today.  The way it is highlighted on the map suggests it is a place name.  It must be called that for a reason though.  None of my books refer to it.

As for religion, not my expertise in the slightest but 'chapel' suggests to me Catholic, whereas church / kirk suggests the others.  You've got the right idea.

If I 'find' any more churches in the area, I'll let you know.

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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 05:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave,

Is Chapel the placename?  I assumed it was where the chapel was, same as for Kirk above Dirleton, or was there a place called Kirk too?  Jill

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Matthew - Paddington LND
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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I think Chapel is a placename maybe exists as a farm steading now, but on an East Lothian Tourist map it is marked as "historic remains"

http://www.eastlothian.gov.uk/downloads/Map_side1.pdf

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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I have just found a reference to Chapel on the NAS site, from 1785. It gives names of 2 tenants of nearby farms, Miss Sydserff of Ruchlaw and Miss Reid of Easter Chapel. This can be searched under ref RHP625/1-2, There was also a Wester Chapel and seemed to be a dispute of extent of local farms etc.

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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 01:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your interesting snippets. 

My take on Chapel is that there would have been ruins of a chapel in that place but from NAS reference RHP625/1-2 it would appear that in 1785 Easter Chappel and Wester Chappel were property names where the two Misses lived, from which the general area around these properties was called Chapel.  NAS plans for 1785 also include buildings at East Fenton, West Chapel etc.

With regard to East Fenton, there is certainly mention of the village of Fenton as part of Dirleton parish in 1868 Imperial Gazetteer of Scotland.  Once again, East Fenton would have been the general area taken from East Fenton Farm.

NAS also has various plans of East Fenton Farm from 1844-1937, showing field names and boundaries with acreages and names of adjacent owners - RHP140081-140086.


From Adelaide, South Australia, I am primarily interested in the WEBB family:
William - Tamworth STS, Melton Mowbray LEI
Mrs Sarah nee BINDLEY - Ealing MDX
William Thomas Bindley - South Australia
Allan - Calcutta, India
Edward Walter - Leamington WAR
Matthew - Paddington LND
Arthur Charles - South Australia
Sarah Frances - Bendigo VIC Australia
Francis - Macclesfield CHS
Mrs Charlotte HAMPSON - Doncaster YKS
George - Camberwell SRY
Charles - South Australia

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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Fenton House was a 16th Century fortified Tower House
http://www.fentontower.co.uk/

More information about Dirleton can also be found on Undiscovered Scotland
http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/dirleton/dirleton/

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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Just a wee foot note that Dirleton also haas what we call a 'castle'.  It is very much a ruin, but on good days here we all head down the coast to Yellow Sands Beach and have barbeques.  It is just north of North Berwick and just south of Gullane, which is the home of golf in East Lothian.  More of a 'Neuk' rather than a village me thinks.  Maybe 'Historic Scotland ' site will give you some info.
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Re: Haddingtonshire parish churches 19th Century
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Also forgot to add, you have Gladsmuir which split off from Haddington Parish to form a parish in its own right.