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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #36 on: Monday 11 May 09 15:55 BST (UK) »
Yes, sorry, I jumped a generation. So many Johns and James names!

I meant to speak of the Burgess/McDougal clan and the two brothers of that marriage, James and John.

Anything you might have on the Ramage connection would be appreciated.

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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #37 on: Monday 11 May 09 16:15 BST (UK) »
It will have to come in bits and pieces, I'm afraid.

First, I have John Burgess (b.1816, Kells - 13 July 1886, Richview, peel Co) marrying Mary Ramage (b.1808, Scotland - 16 Nov 1881, Toronto, Peel Co).

They married by licence on 16 March 1841 at St Andrews Church, Toronto. Mary was a widow, of Gore. They had two children - John (1841-1843) and Janet padkin (1845-1849)

That seems to be all I have on Mary. I wonder if it's worth you putting up a separate query on the Canadian Board to see if anyone can find out about Mary's previous husband.


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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #38 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:07 BST (UK) »
Have you got Mary's parents as Philip Stodart and Janet Padkin?

If there is a connection between her and Jane, it might be worth checking up on this pair.

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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #39 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:23 BST (UK) »
I have Mary Stoddart's parents as James and Elizabeth (?) but that is speculation. Mary Stoddart and my ancestor John Stoddart are presumed to be sibblings because they are buried in the same very small cemetery and originated in the same area of Scotland. They may have been cousins which would give them different parents.
Philip Stoddart and Janet Padkin would be a logical option for Mary. Do you have anthing on that couple?


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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #40 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:28 BST (UK) »
Just looking them up - if she was b. Wiston and Roberton in 1802 (bpt 16 Dec)  then they are her parents (on SP from the OPRs) This fits with her age at death.

They have the following daughters b. W & R from IGI:

1797 - Janet
1799 - Helen
1802 - Mary


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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #41 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:30 BST (UK) »
What date of birth do you have for John Stoddart?
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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #42 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:33 BST (UK) »


They married by licence on 16 March 1841 at St Andrews Church, Toronto. Mary was a widow, of Gore. They had two children - John (1841-1843) and Janet padkin (1845-1849)




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Just reviewed my earlier posting. I think the name of her daughter confirms her mother as Janet Padkin, doesn't it  :)


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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #43 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:36 BST (UK) »
John was born Feb 14 1792 Midlothian. Married 29 April 1811 Margaret Lindsay at St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh. He died July 9 1854 in Toronto Township, Ontario.

That info on Mary is huge for me and my fellow Stoddart family researchers. We had assumed John and Mary were siblings. Thank you so much.

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Re: Burgess-Spalding - a puzzle/condundrum
« Reply #44 on: Monday 11 May 09 23:47 BST (UK) »
Nothing at all showing on SP for the birth/baptism in Midlothian for John in 1792. What was your source? And who do you have as his parents?


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