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Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 17 February 09 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello - My Great Grandfather's occupation is listed as Tube Drawer in various records.   However, appearing in the 1901 Census, the enumerator wrote beside the above mentioned occupation the word "Pudd".   Is this the name of employment? 

 Also, on the death registration of his daughter (1902), occupation is recorded as "labourer at Tube Works of Birmingham"?   Is anyone familiar with this company and where was it located in Birmingham?

Thank you in advance.

Gail
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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gail,
           Don't know the company, but as a Tube Drawer he was most likely involved in making shotgun barrels for the Birmingham
gun trade.

Jim

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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 09:52 GMT (UK) »
'Pudd' may be an abbreviation of 'Puddler'  an occupation in the iron-making industry.  More info if you look up 'Iron Puddler' on this site:

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/

I have iron puddlers and tube drawers in my tree.  I don't have anyone listed as doing both jobs on the same census, but I do have them shown as being a tube drawer at one time and puddler at another.
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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your replies.

You learn something new every day!   Jim,  I was unaware that Birmingham was also part of the gun trade.   

Found the web site extremely helpful and informative.  Thank you for the link.  Perhaps he was also a 'puddler'???

I went  through other records (BMD's) and found from 1890 to 1901 he is listed as a 'Engine Fitter - Journeyman' and  'tube drawer - journeyman', with the exception of his wife's death registration (1902) as being a 'bicycle maker's labourer'.  His own death registration in 1907 states 'tube drawer'.

After his wife's death,  an application was made to Barnardo's orphanage .  However, seeing that he made 25 shillings a week as a tube drawer, the case was declined.      Was 25 shillings more than adequate, compared to other occupations during this time frame?

Next question - Is there an on-line directory listing manufacturer's in B'ham?  They resided in the St. George District.

Thank you.

Gail
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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 February 09 01:11 GMT (UK) »
Cycle manufacture would also involve tubes, so there's not necessarily any contradiction there.

The note "Pudd" was probably made in the census office, rather than by the enumerator.  They would group various job descriptions into broad categories for statistical analysis.
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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 February 09 01:29 GMT (UK) »
Now that you mentioned it, the work "Pudd" is not written in the same hand as the enumerator.  Thank you for that clarification.

I'm leaning towards the cycle industry.   A Google search enabled me to find some history on "Cycle Manufacturers in Birmingham that may apply.

Regards,
Gail
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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 February 09 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Bicycle making, although some mass produced, was also a home industry (as in my B'ham family). A lot of the support work also for the gun trade was done in local "shoppings" and sold on to the main manufacturers (as service industries do today). You may not find a link between the trade of your ancestros and any specific manufacturer due to the sheer number of people involved in supporting these trades.
Good luck.

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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 February 09 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your input.  Much appreciated.
Williamson - Highlands, Scotland
Stewart -   "   ,Scotland
McMillan -   "  , Scotland
McNeil -       "  , Scotland
Jamieson -   "  , Scotland
Watson -      "  , Scotland

Williamson - Antrim, N. Ireland
McConnell -  N. Ireland

Court - Birmingham, England
Masters - Oxfordshire, England
Blogg - Norfolk, England
Culley - Norfolk, England
Mason - Worcestershire, England
Harpur - Oxfordshire, England
Nott - Norfolk, England

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Re: Tube Drawer in Birmingham
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 February 09 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Try this site if you haven't found it already, Gail.  Lots of local knowledge there!

http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/
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