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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 June 06 12:20 BST (UK) »
Found this site, which includes a Travellers Remember section:

http://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 June 06 19:44 BST (UK) »
Great links, Annie and Arranroots ;D

Love the videos from the travellerstimes site, esp the hop-picking one. Really got me thinking again about my traveller ancestors, in terms of how things were for travellers in the 19th century - how they moved about and what they lived in.

I know that my Pannells and Newlands/Proudleys were hawkers from census info (also listed in other documents as pegmakers and basketmakers), and also that my Pannell g-g-grandfather was a seasonal hop-picker. I know that hawkers generally had horses as transport (rather than pedlars who supposedly were on foot), but I'm still interested to know how these forebears moved about - did they have a horse and cart? caravan? tent?

I know from some census and birth cert info that my g-g-grandfather Pannell and his family did live in houses from time to time - certainly by 1881, they were I think in almshouses, then after that in a house? in Horsham.

I also wonder about hop-picking in the mid to latter half of the 19th century - was there accommodation available in the hopfields of Kent, or did hop-pickers have to bring their tents, caravans, etc?

Clara

Shaw/Smith: Ottawa, Canada
Davies/Hill: Monmouth/Gloucestershire/Middlesex/Surrey
Chatfield: Kent
Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland
Lyden: Ireland
Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey
Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks
Boys: Sussex/London
Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex

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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 August 06 09:34 BST (UK) »

I also wonder about hop-picking in the mid to latter half of the 19th century - was there accommodation available in the hopfields of Kent, or did hop-pickers have to bring their tents, caravans, etc?

Clara


there is some useful background here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/voices/living.shtml
monique
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 November 06 13:27 GMT (UK) »
another Kent link

GYPSIES, TRAVELLERS AND OTHER ITINERANTS IN KENT
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gypsy/gypsy.htm
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 March 07 07:19 GMT (UK) »
If you have Loveridge Connections this site could prove very useful:

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=towcester&id=I8147

A large family tree of the Towcester Loveridges and their married relations has been deposited there.

Whilst not useful as a searchable resource, this page threw up some interesting stuff: theres a fabulous painting of the Shaw Family of Cambridge, and an image of the baptism of Selah, daughter of Edmund (No Name) Heron and wife Rose (Lovell).

Gypsy families in Cambridgeshire
http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/online/breakingthebarriers/barriers8.htm

This ones my own (without wishing to blow my own trumpet!) - just a load of Censuses, photos, etc that Ive extracted along the way whilst trying to piece together various romany families. It centres on Grays Smiths Herons, Boswells and Bosses, but other names are there, especially when camped with one of the above named families. Its not perfect of course, but it might help some folkis.

Romany References, the Grays and Smith Families from the Midlands
http://web.archive.org/web/20080912094320/http://www.geocities.com/seraphim_angel_2002/Gypsyindex.html

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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 May 07 07:55 BST (UK) »
Romany Genes
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.uk

Mostly Dorset, Hampshire and the West Country but extending into Surrey etc. - 25 years of research!
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 August 07 10:44 BST (UK) »
Dont know if you folks know a great website lots of info and census records and baptisms and general info and loads of old pictures and history from the old romany books etc its .
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.ukSiteowner has been researching for over 25 years! well worth a look even has transported folki.

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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 November 07 02:17 GMT (UK) »
Fairground Heritage
http://www.fairground-heritage.org.uk
thank you lorraine
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground etc. links
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 December 07 05:44 GMT (UK) »
The link to John M. Turner's  "Dictionary of British Circus Biography" Project http://web.archive.org/web/20070916002705/http://www.circusbiography.co.uk  is on a few other threads but warrants a place on this thread too. John has 11,000 records in his biographical database, with over 10,500 records of circus visits. He's happy to share this information with other researchers, including family historians, on a reciprocal basis.

The Cornish Funfairs; Detailing the Showmen of the Duchy of Cornwall website  contains an article about Anderton and Rowlands funfair which is probably the oldest firm travelling in Cornwall

The Family Trees section of fun-fairs.co.uk "All the fun of the Fair" message forum may help RootsChatters who are related to families in the Fun Fair business.

Christopher