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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 11:23 BST (UK) »
I think the Georgina May is a dead end...probably my desperation to have another Georgina May in the family. My baby Georgina has been gone 20 years now.
I think I can say that Annie is most likely a definite connection.
The mum and dad were both deceased by the 1901 and I have all the children..Margaret, William, George and Alice living and working in service in Kent.
The family are no where to be found on the 1891.
I have tried looking under the mothers maiden name to see if there was an error when writing census....you know, like recording all the family surname under the name of the head of house.
I got really excited when I thought I found them in Devon...only to go into the actual transcript and see I was wrong, i will get there...just might take a while ...lol..
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 11:30 BST (UK) »
This seems to be 3 of them in Mayfield Sussex in 1901.

Edwd Albt Shide (perhaps Stride?)    60 farmer.
Sarah Ann Shide    52 wife
Albert Shide    12
Alice Rowland    13 boarders all b Middlesex London
William Rowland    12
George Rowland    8

RG13/ 898  Folio 117 Page 4
   

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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 11:39 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's them. Mrs Stride was their foster mother. Margaret was in service in Fulwich with Mrs Strides daughter, Kate.
I went through the two boys William and George, as I knew they emigrated to the US as boys. Found them on US census, then followed the family tree up to date. Emailed the likely suspects and found what I was looking for.
We have three stories about the dad.
1 he was killed in the Boer War.........our British version
2 he killed himself ....one American version
3 he died whilst trying to save a lady from drowning...the other American version
One of the American cousins remembers the youngest of the four, Alice, showing him a newspaper cutting regarding the drowning.
I will order
 birth certs for the William Rowland b 1860 ish and see what comes back.
I am also going to follow the maternal line up from Margaret Ellen Emmett to see if I can locate any living relatives. Only problem...she had 4 girls. Still i do like a challenge....BMD marriages here I come.
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire


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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 11:42 BST (UK) »
So here's their marriage.

Marriages Mar 1884   

Emmett    Margaret Ellen         St Saviour    1d   17    
ROWLAND    John William         St.Saviour    1d   17   

She was 25 and her father was Samuel Emmett .
Hubby was John William Rowland age 24, as was his dad,so no wonder he swopped his names around a bit to make it easier I expect.

Still can't see a death for a Margaret Rowland about the time you say?
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 13:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks carol
I have a death for Margaret MQ 1896 Camberwell and a baby Charlotte Rowland b MQ 1896 d JQ 1896 Camberwell.
I think that might be her
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 13:35 BST (UK) »
And a death William Rowland
Camberwell MQ 1897
I think that might be him...so I am going to give the newspaper archives a go for the end 1896 start 1897!
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 16:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks carol
I have a death for Margaret MQ 1896 Camberwell and a baby Charlotte Rowland b MQ 1896 d JQ 1896 Camberwell.
I think that might be her

I wonder who registered the death,as according to her marriage cert she was born in 1859/60.
So this one seems a bit too old?

Deaths Mar 1896   

ROWLAND    Margaret   age 40    Camberwell    1d   527
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 16:39 BST (UK) »
Ah..yes....i think my brain had lost it...at that point I had beeb looking for about 3 hours.......what a twit!
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 07 August 14 12:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carol and Liz
Loks like I found them...hiding away in 1891 census as Powland instead of Rowland.
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire