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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 05:23 GMT (UK) »
Just adding to Jenn's advice there.
Here is the page of the Victorian BMD search site which gives the process for the full download.

You will get a lot more information than what you currently have. Bit long. Have shrunk to fit the posting  screen.

The shrunk url link

http://www.rootschat.com/links/05qh/

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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Mentions of the SICHLAU family in the digitised newspapers avalaible from the Aus National Lib site mostly 1915-1927 but another mention of William Harvey as a grazier in Yea in 1945

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

especially interesting is one about the estate of 'the late Emil Theodor Sichlau with mentions of William Harvey Schilau and 'an infant Louis Schilau'.  Birth notice of Louis also.

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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jenn and Sue, new to this game so did not appreciate difference between various downloads. Christina's death cert completes our story, she died in the Immigrants' Hostel on April 3 1902 and was buried in Melbourne Cemetery next day. This hostel seems to have been the last refuge of the destitute. Her daughter Caroline Christina was 1000 miles away in Manly, sister Margaret was closer in Geelong but in those days they couldn't just hop into the car, and Margaret herself was only two yrs younger ...
We also got Caroline's birth cert, she was born Swanston St Melbourne, and Christina was 43 at the time of her birth. Caroline appears to be the only child.
I wonder what happened to Christina's husband William George Stephens, born London England and a draper at the time of their marriage at Margaret's house in Adelaide? Have tried Victoria bmd and there is no match. Perhaps he died before her and in a different State?

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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael

The death certificate of Christina should tell you whether she was a widow, that is if the informant knew.

and Christina was 43 at the time of her birth. MICHAEL

Caroline was born in the year following the marriage, 1857

Although you have not given us the exact birthdate of Christina, we can surmise it to be in the decade following her mother's marriage in 1821 [your initial posting]

If she died in 1902 aged 76 she was born 1826.

I think therefore Chiristina was more like 31 when she had Caroline . If she had been 43 at the birth she would have been born in 1814.

I have an ancestor who was born in Swanston Street in the mid 1850's

The details tell it was "in a tent"

Like your Christina this family was in transit from South Australia and were heading for the Goldfields round Inglewood and Ballarat.

I was struck by the similarity and am wondering whether William  George Stephens got the gold fever too.

Sue

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just spotted Christina's birth date on the lovely Bible page.
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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
We have the date and place of Christina's marriage, but we do not have William George's parents' names.

Saw this death in NSW

4745/1900  STEPHENS,  WILLIAM G  father MATHEW mother not known @     BATHURST

Bit of a longshot ;D,

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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888


I cannot beleive I missed these when I  looked  perhaps it was  the Surname  spelling throwing me off DOh doh doh

births in Victoria
to Wm Geo STEPHENS and Christina McCritchie

STEPHENS  Unnamed 1859 reg no 717
STEPHENS  Emily Jeanette 1861 at South Yarra reg no 19486
STEPHENS  Mary Jemima 1864 at Collingwood reg no 14416 died aged 4 months in 1864 reg no 7506



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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn,
They are good finds.

It is odd though that the death certficate does not mention them.

We would expect to see living and dead children

Caroline appears to be the only child. freeman

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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Sue

I  don't feel  that Ferryman actual says anything about children being recorded on the death certificate?

Jenn

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I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Jenn,
I agree what he says is a bit ambiguous.


We also got Caroline's birth cert, she was born Swanston St Melbourne, and Christina was 43 at the time of her birth. Caroline appears to be the only child.


Not sure how you could deduce from a birth certificate that a person never had siblings.

Sue
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