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Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« on: Sunday 01 March 09 12:29 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to locate birth details for a Mary Ann Thurman, daughter of William Thurman (1783-1859) and Mary Revill (1787-1864).
Mary Ann was born about 1821 in Nottinghamshire according to 1861 Census, 1871 Census and her death record in 1886.
But I can't find her birth or baptism record.
She may have been baptised in St Mary or St Peter Nottingham.
Can anyone help?
With thanks

Tiggywinkle

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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tiggy

If I've got the right one then she was baptized 20th Sept 1818, d/o William & Mary, abode :- Park Street, Nottingham. Fathers occupation Law stationer. She was baptised at St Nicholas Church, maybe that's why you couldn't find her.

There's a possible marriage for William and Mary Revell, 23rd May 1811 St Peters Nottingham. I thought that date looked a little early so I've checked to see if Mary Ann had siblings and yes, she did which confirms it's the correct marriage:-

William 21st Sept 1813. Fathers occupation stationer
James 18th Dec 1814.       "             "                 "
Martha Revill Thurman 14th Aug 1816. Fathers occupation Law stationer
George Revill Thurman 4th Feb 1821.    "              "              "         "
Charlotte 14th April 1823.                      "              "             "          "
Edward 9th Oct 1825.                             "              "            "           "
All the children were baptized at the same church and the family lived at the same address all the time.

Sadly, to say there was also another Mary, buried 19th Jan 1814, aged 4 months and a Mary Foster Thurman buried 20th Sept 1820 aged 8 months, again the address given for both these babes was Park Street, but they were buried at St Peters Church Nottingham. The middle name Foster may well be another family name - worth persuing I would think.

Hope this helps

BG  :)



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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Tiggy

You well already have this information, but Wiliam was baptized  18th Sept 1783 at St Marys Nottingham and his parents appear to have been James Thurman and Ann Baker, who married 10th May 1779, St Marys Nottingham.

William was one of 8 children:-

Jane      Bap.  27th Feb 1780
Sarah    Bap. 6th Feb 1782
Thomas Bap. 31st March 1785
Ann       Bap.  22nd Oct 1786
James   Bap 3rd Feb 1788
Elizabeth Sophia  Bap 26th July 1789
John  Bap 10th April 1791

All baptized at St Marys Nott'm, no other information given.

BG
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Bower - Nottinghamshire (mainly Newark)
Crowder - Mansfield Nottinghamshire & Devon
Price - Newark,  Nottinghamshire
Ingleton - Skillington, Lincolnshire
Smith - All parts of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire & Lincolnshire especially Wisdom Smith, Robert & Evening Smith

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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi BG
Thank you so much for all that info in both your posts.  I've not yet come across the surname Foster in relation to the family but I'll store this info away in case I do! I'd found the names of some of Mary Ann's siblings, but not all of them and it's great to have their dates of birth too.
With many thanks
Tiggy


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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 December 13 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm years behind in reading this post but I have just stumbled upon it whilst trying to do some family research on connections of my Thurman Family Tree.
I am very interested in you list of 8 children of James Thurman and Ann Baker.
I have a George Thomas Thurman christened 1795 to a James Thurman and Ann Thurman at St Peters Nottinghamshire.
Could this be the very same James and Ann Thurman? Did they in fact have another child after John??

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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 December 13 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lana

Welcome to Rootschat

It looks like they had a few other children as well

George Thomas Thurman 28.9. 1795 bapt at St Peters
Edward Thomas Thurman 28.6. 1799 bapt at St Peters - father occupation was Hairdresser
Elizabeth Thurman 5.3. 1798 bapt at St Peters - Hairdresser
Thomas Thurman 23.3. 1794 bapt at St Peters - Hairdresser
William Thurman 18.9. 1783 bapt at St Marys

Carol

Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 December 13 13:16 GMT (UK) »
A few burials

Edward Thomas Thurman buried 4.2. 1823 aged 28 Pepper St
James Thurman buried 7.3. 1832 aged 76 Pepper St
Ann Thurman buried 12.9. 1832 aged 77 Pepper St

All buried at St Peters.

Which line are you following? 
If looks like some of their other children were buried at Tollerton, but not sure if its the same family

Carol
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 December 13 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Wow!

Im following the line of George Thomas Thurman which has been challenging but interesting! I think theres some serious "family closet stories" because not much info has been passed down.

My direct tree line is this

Unconfirmed but highly likely
James Thurman married Ann Baker
George Thomas Thurman b1795 married to Mary (Unknown last name)

Evidence based
Eliza Thurman b1826 (had illegitimate son- used her Thurman name)
George Thomas Thurman b1844 married Fanny Rutter
Harold Thurman b1890 married Gwendoline Amelia Morgan
William Harold Thurman b1925 married Elaine Dudgeon Gass
Rowan Harold Thurman b1956 married Marita Barnard
Alana Mary Thurman b1989 (thats me)

It has become guess work since Eliza Thurman (I have her sons George Thomas Thurman birth certificate which shows no father). In the 1851 census I have:
George Thurman 57 (Head), Eliza Thurman 27 (Daughter), George Thomas Thurman 6 (grandson).
So its interesting that my whole existence of my last name is based on a female.. I could be any surname in the world because of the lack of Father on her sons birth certificate!

So any info anyone has that links us together in a tree would be so great!!

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Re: Mary Ann Thurman born about 1818
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 December 13 14:28 GMT (UK) »
I have found the family in the 1851 census and George gives his birthplace as Bealings, Suffolk.  What makes you think its the same George who was born in Nottingham.

Carol


Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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