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Owen Elias
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 13:24 GMT (UK) »
I am new on the site and I am intrested in Owen Elias and his son William Owen Elias and his family my conection is with Owen Elias sister Emma.
William O Elias built a further series of streets with the initial
that gave the name of his eldest son, E Alfred.
These start at Espin st and finish at Dyson st, thus these Generations of this family of welsh buildersshare in the memorial. It is said that Owen Elias was chairman of the first meeting in Liverpool addressed by John Bright and it was at this meeting the phrase " Liverpool as the capital of Wales.
Owen Elias came to liverpool with two of his brothers one was Edward Elias, then there was William Elias. William O Elias was married to Martha Williams in 1870 martha father was William William the first welsh town councillor of Liverpool. I have the Welsh builder on merseyside it dose hold a lot of information
Elias, Michael, Owen, Mutton, Longcake, Nickson.

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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 13:46 GMT (UK) »
1891   RG12/2979/107/50   

All born LIverpool Lancashire

William O elias 41  estate agent
Martha 38
Alfred 15
Frank
Frederick 10
Jessie 8
Hilda 6

Jane Williams 31 sister in law, living on own means
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 13:53 GMT (UK) »
1871   RG10/3817/147/39    All born Liverpool

Owen Elias 64 builder b Wales
Jane 46
GL dau23
WO son 21 builder
DT son 16
AA dau 13
HS dau 13
HE dau 9
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:02 GMT (UK) »
1851  HO107/2190/25/42    Liverpool, Everton Netherfield Rd North

Owen Elias 44 joiner and builder employing 19 men b Anglesey
Jane 27
Jane Sarah 6
Grace 3
Wm O 1

born Liverpool
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:10 GMT (UK) »
 HO107/piece 563/book 3/ed 6/folio 10/page 12  [ages rounded down to nearest five]
address, look as though it could be Virginia St  ??   Liverpool

not born in county.

Owen Elias 30 builer
William Elias 32 builder
Edward Elias 25 joiner
Margaret Elias    27 housekeeper
Elizabeth Elias 15

Grace Elias 15  [these three look in a separate household same house]
John Elias 30
Grace Elias 20


But no Emma  ?
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Marriage

Dec 1841  W Derby, 20/688

Owen Ellias to Jane Lewis
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:38 GMT (UK) »
The others in 1851   
HO107/2190/31/55
Netherfield Rd North  W Derby

William Ellias 42 proprietor of houses
Edward 37    ditto
Margaret 38
Elizabeth 26

all b Llandadig Anglesey
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:51 GMT (UK) »
1861  rg9/2719/33/20     Netherfield Rd

Owen Elias 54 builder emp 43 men b Anglesey
Jane 37
Jane 16
Grace 13
William 11
David 6
Owen 4
Alice 3
Hannah 3

plus four servants and a visitor Celia Edwards b Wales
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Re: Owen Elias
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Fascinating story!

On today's map, just west of the streets:
Espin
Askew
Linton
Frodsham
Ripon
Emery
Dyson

there are a set:
Oxton
Winslow
Eton
Neston

Andrew
Nimrod
Dane

Wilburn
Ismay
Lind
Lowell
Ismay
Arnot
... and then nothing. Are we missing a M-street? ;)

Perhaps there are more! I shall keep a look out when I look at street names now.

The Times, Saturday, Jan 14, 1888; pg. 11; Issue 32282; col F
 Election Intelligence
Liverpool (Walton Division)
Mr J. G. Gibson had left his seat, and the Gladstonians had asked Owen Elias, builder, to become a candidate, but he declined.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/
 - search for the phrase Elias, William Owen and there's information on his bankruptcy in 1889.
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