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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 March 09 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Ok here are 2 families listed :
both say parents Reservoy Smith 1820 1922
 & Tom Fletcher b 1820
children :

Silvanus Fletcher
1843 – 

Thomas Fletcher
1846 – 

Mary Fletcher
1848 – 

John Fletcher
1852 – 

Lucy Fletcher
1852 – 

Betsy Fletcher
1853 – 

Catherine Fletcher
1856 – 

Damaris Rose Fletcher
1861 – 1913

Wisdom Fletcher
1867 – 1868

 2nd Family lists Children :

Thomas Fletcher
1846 – 

Mary Fletcher
1848 – 

John Fletcher
1852 – 

Lucy Fletcher
1852 – 

Betsy Fletcher
1853 – 

Betsy Fletcher
1853 – 

Damairs Rose Fletcher
1861 – 

Wisdom Fletcher
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 March 09 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Where did you find the information...I think it might be my own!!! The second one almost certainly is - I'd be very very interested to know where you found the first family
Smiths - Gypsies and Hawkers
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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Well they both appear in same place so if you put yours on a well known site not sure if allowed to say but its same word we would use to describe Family history ......... lol

Now I was also going to say reason I am interested  in this family  of yours.... Fletcher & Smith
Is because I have in my tree a Tennah Buckland married in 1822 to John Fletcher in Buckinghamshire I know nothing about them as a couple or their children etc

Also I am linked to the Smith side very much so .......
Tennah father was Edward Buckland & mother Diana Smith
but also you talk about John (shadrack ) Smith I think his son Wisdom Smith married in 1872 Bromsgrove to Edith Buckland and I have marriage certificate for them which lists father as John Smith "Hawker"
I am pretty certain its him
So now you can understand my interest as this is all my family
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Well they both appear in same place so if you put yours on a well known site not sure if allowed to say but its same word we would use to describe Family history ......... lol

Yep one of those is definitely me!! (got the PM)

That Wisdom (married to Edith) we believe is Reservoy's brother so thats good. Reservoy and Tom are my ggg grandparents.
Smiths - Gypsies and Hawkers
Fletcher - especially Thomas (Tom) who married Resevoy Smith
Gething
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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Got marriage of Damaris Fletcher & Thomas Buckland
13th September 1826 Long Crendon Buckinghamshire

If as you say this could Thomas elder sister...... mnight be worth geting thiso ne to find out father ? only a thought if  you feel this colud be his father too.......
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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:38 GMT (UK) »
wow thanks for confirming that about Wisdom Smith lol
Edith Bukcland was my Grt Aunt my Grt Grandfather was her brother Nelson Buckland the lady in my photo is Betsy Smith daughter of James Smith who I wondered is maybe a brother to John Smith ? or if not a cousin
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Good idea, I could try and find it but I guess I'd have to go to Bucks to look at the films. Hopefully it'll have father's name, I find it so annoying that some of the parish records prior to 1837 didn't have fathers!!!
Smiths - Gypsies and Hawkers
Fletcher - especially Thomas (Tom) who married Resevoy Smith
Gething
Solway
Roberts
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Westwood

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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:42 GMT (UK) »
What did I confirm?! Hehe

We have Tenant and Keziah in our tree, Edith and Nelson and the others. Apparently they're all supposed to have gone to USA... is that right?
Smiths - Gypsies and Hawkers
Fletcher - especially Thomas (Tom) who married Resevoy Smith
Gething
Solway
Roberts
Masters
Westwood

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Re: Reservey Reservoy Rizzavoy Rose Elizabeth Smith/Fletcher
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 08 March 09 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Do you already have this, from the JGLS (1999)?

(p.58) The mention of this John Smith recalls his namesake John, son of Wisdom and Elizabeth, whose wife Nanny died at Worcester in 1908 ' aged 108,' and a whole bevy of ' centenarians ' connected with this couple. Nanny was by birth a Byles ; and she is commonly reputed to have been, and probably was, sister to Charlotte Byles who married another of Wisdom's sons, Billy Smith of Buckingham, though Charlotte herself on one occasion denied relationship. Charlotte was daughter of a gorgio named William Byles and Sarah, daughter of Priscilla Smith : and for Charlotte, Priscilla and Nanny's oldest daughter Rizavoi, wife of Tom Fletcher, centenarianism is also claimed. About Priscilla, who is reputed to have lived to the age of 105, I have no evidence to offer. Rizavoi was baptized at Wigginton on September 4, 1830, and died in the autumn of 1923, and was therefore 93 not 108 as her kinsfolk asserted. Charlotte's age was never very definitely fixed during her lifetime ; but as far back as 1912, when old Reni Smith (nee Buckland) was reputed to be 102, Charlotte declared that she remembered Reni still a girl when she herself was grown up and married........