Surnames / occupations

[cwtch]

Sorry Janneyj I am not aware of any Youngs, it.s very frustrating trying to find info on Roma families!

[vince smith]

Merona, Do you think  that the  Rom(a), Stevensons are the same as the Romnichal Stevonsons and stevens'?

Same for the Mitchells.   

Although DNA testing is starting to show that all the Romani groups are related, I am led to believe by my Wife's family who are Evon's, that many of the surnames were anglicised when the Rom got to the West.

I have stevens in my line going back at least to 1780.

I see you also have Raffertys, of whom my Grandmother was one.

[cwtch]

Hi Vince Smith, I do not know anything about the Roma dna whose is what? Interesting though. I believe all Roma people are related not tinkers or people gadje that decide they want to try that life and feel then they are Rom no a Roma person it's inside deeper even that the blood lines, it's who you are no if and or buts.....does that make sense to any one......I'm kind of going a bit around in circles trying to explain how I feel about a true Roma lol.
Any way Vince it's interesting because I also am an Evon....

[JaneyJ]

Hi Marona,

Thankyou for the reply, ref: Hearn's/ Young's, I'll sort this out one day....

I agree with your last post, being a Rom/Roma/Gypsy is a feeling of belonging to something very special.

Though I am of mixed blood, (Grandma Jane Young married "out"), I have an enormous pride in my Gypsy/Travelling family.

The Young's were known to be "Proper Romanies" in Scotland, and held in deep respect within the Scottish Traveller communities. (Read Jess Smith, author of some wonderful books about Scottish Travellers).

So even if my blood is a little diluted, the love of freedom and family still runs through me.

Jane

[cwtch]

Hi Jane and any one else that might be interested; at the Liverpool uni there is a large section on Roma people. You can purchase info on families last name. There is a small fee for this but well worth it.
I will post the address below and contacts name.
good luck

Katy Hooper

Hooper, Katy <K.Hooper@liverpool.ac.uk>

Special Collections & Archives

[rootbeer]

Hi Janey-J. The Heron/Youngs are/were different Young's from the Scottish Traveller Young's. the Heron Young's mostly married Heron's Lee's Boswell's or there own Young's. they were Herons who took the name Young i think the name change started with Miller Heron i will check my info. my gt gt grandmother was Leondra Young she married a Boswell i have done a lot of research on the heron/Youngs and would like to hear from anyone ells who might have connections.  my aunt is a Scottish Young and my brother in-law a Hartley im related to the Cuninghams and my uncles mam was a Stevenson all are very well known Gypsy familys. just to add that the Heron/Youngs used the names Brown Linner Gray Boswell and others on some Census i have the full Heron tree but its not %100 but would be happy to help anyone who might be interested

[JaneyJ]

Hi rootbeer,
Thankyou so much for the info, it has cleared my head of a lot of useless junk....quite a big job that one  .

I to am related to the Cunninghams and Hartley's, My G/Grandmother was Margaret Cunningham c: 1865 Sheffield, who married John Young b: 1861 Aberdeen.
Their daughter (my Great Aunt) Rebecca b: 1886 Stirling, married John Hartley b: 1877 Stirling, they settled in Edinburgh.

I've not come across the name Leondra Young in my family, sounds a lovely name, the Scots tended to use quite conventional names,  I do have Boswells, though not a direct link.

Who is your Scottish Aunt Young?.

Jane

[JaneyJ]

Hi Marona,
 
Thankyou for the info on Liverpool Uni, I've just had a quick look on their web site and it's given me itchy feet to go and have a look, though by the comments Katy Hooper made on the Gypsy Lore web site I might want a few days to have a good look....another holiday coming on I think... .

Jane

[daisydew7]

Does anyone know anything about Frampton Youn S/o Elijah heron young and Sarah Boss Born 1821 In England

Thank you