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Offline zoolew

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 April 09 08:38 BST (UK) »
HI Justin & Valigene - it looks as if things have got a bit mixed up, so I hope Justin sees this!  The inscription on Lipman's headstone is in both English & Jewish, fortunately for me, as I wouldn't be able to read the Jewish version.  It's not all that clear, but I expect to soon receive an email of the English version from my cousin who took the photo.  Thanks anyway for your offer, Justin!

I should soon receive a copy of Lipman's Death Certificate.  Yesterday I tried unsuccessfully to order a digital version of his naturalisation certificate, but both my & my husband's credit cards were rejected - maybe because we're in Australia.  So I'll email TNA to find out what to do.

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 April 09 10:20 BST (UK) »
Hello,

The wires did get a bit crossed somewhere.

Zoolew - if your cousin doesn't email you soon. My offer still holds. It's a shame you won't be able to pop over to the cemetery. I'm surprised that your credit card was rejected. My card is registered in Ireland where I live and I have never experienced any problems. Are they mainstream cards, e.g. Visa or Mastercard?

Val - I hadn't noticed your thread, or thought you had already received numerous responses. I shall have a look and get back to you. Records for Kovno are held in the Lithuanian archives. I should be able to guide you in the right direction.

Justin

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 April 09 12:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks Justin. I will continue on my Poles and Russians thread
Val
Norfolk==Green, Fuller,Nelson,Allen
Staffs==Fradley,Burditt,Ward,Wood
Leicester==Hubbard,Ward,Warner,Dale.Bailey
Leicester==Royce, Cank, Shenton
Leeds=Halliday,Brooke,Woodhead
Birkenhead==Sadaski,Taylor(Jewish)(Polish)
Hull==Brown,Goldstein(Jewish)(Russian)

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #12 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:13 BST (UK) »
Zoolew,

While looking through of Lithuanina Jewish surnames I came across GORDON, much to my surprise.

Intriguing!

Justin


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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 09:07 BST (UK) »
Justin

Wow - is there a link, I wonder?  Any thoughts on how to pursue this line of inquiry?

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 09:58 BST (UK) »
I can do a couple of searches, but until you have obtained the naturalization papers and established Lipman's / Lewis' place of birth, it would be a bit of a poke in the dark.

The papers should also clarify his parents' names.

I re-read your message about ordering them. Are you really able to order an electronic copy or will they simply send you photocopies?

Justin

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 10:19 BST (UK) »
I did some searched anyway.

There was a FORDON (sic!!!!) family living in Warsaw in the 1850s / 60s! Several births were recorded to Mendel and Yankel FORDON, who were most likely brothers.

The marriage of Peisach Izaak Fordon (s/o Jacob, s/o Josek) was recorded in 1856.

Warsaw records are amongst the most abundant. Look at this link:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/town/warszawa.htm

We need to pinpoint the ancestral town.

Justin

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 10:41 BST (UK) »
The plot thickens.

Fordon was a town in the Prussian province of Posen (Poznan nowadays). I'm fairly certain it was under Prussian rule in 1839.

Did any of the census listings for Lipman mention Prussia rather than Russia?

Justin

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Re: Immigrant from Russian Poland
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 April 09 07:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Justin

I've sorted the Visa problem, so hope to soon get the Nauralisation Papers via email.

zoolew