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any guesses of age of photo much appreciated
« on: Thursday 02 April 09 16:18 BST (UK) »
This could be my third great grandfather who was Italian  and his Irish wife.    The back of the photo says " Sidney Webb Photographer to the Admiralty (By Appointment) Diamond Street Pembroke Dock.

Any guesses much appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 April 09 16:37 BST (UK) »
'Any guesses' as regards what?  ???
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 April 09 16:40 BST (UK) »
Sorry about the missing words, am new, the advertising block got in the way!
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 April 09 16:43 BST (UK) »
Back of photo
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 April 09 16:57 BST (UK) »
The photographer Sidney Webb (born in Bristol circa 1834) was in Diamond Street, Pembroke Dock, for some years around 1870.  He was in Commercial Row in the early 1860's and by 1881 he'd moved to Law Street. How does a circa 1870 date square with the information you have about this family?
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 April 09 17:39 BST (UK) »
Hello,    yes, that would put the man and woman to be his son and daughter-in-law, both second generation Italian.    Their first child was born in Bristol in 1873, but died in Pembroke in 1875.   The second child they had was born in 1876 in Pembroke.

I couldn't find exactly when Sidney Webb started work as a photographer.   The first generation Italian family had their last child in 1852, I guess it rules him out as being in the photo.

I was intrigued by the 'Photographer to the Admiralty' - whether this could date the photo.

I looked into Sidney Webb he is in the 1901 (12 Law Street) census working as a bricklayer aged 67!

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 April 09 17:58 BST (UK) »
The clothes should give us a good idea of the approximate date but I'm no expert - there are other RC's who can help with that.

Isn't it nice to see people smiling in an old photo?
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 April 09 18:16 BST (UK) »
Yes it is, I don't see that very often.   If it is the pair that I've mentioned they were born 1852/3 each and he (Devote) went to Bristol from Pembroke to marry her (Barni) in 1871.   His sister had already married her brother! (1868) but never went back to Pembroke as far I know.

So, if you think the photo is c1870 then it could only have been this pair in my family.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 April 09 20:50 BST (UK) »
See this link for some insight from a relative of the photographer Sidney Webb. Perhaps his arrangement with the Admiralty was something to do with mugshots for dockyard security.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DYFED/2002-11/1038063106
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