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1841 & 1851 look up please
« on: Saturday 18 April 09 14:48 BST (UK) »
Having great difficulty locating George Duncan,(born 1814,Gamrie,Scotland).He married Cecilia Williams (born c1817,Bristol) in 1848 in St.Pancras,London. I've found them in 1861 & 1871 censuses in St.Pancras,Marylebone.George died in 1871 & Cecilia in 1873,both in Aberdeen. George was a police sergeant (in the railway police).Any assistance welcome!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 April 09 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hi flst

1851 he's indexed as Geoe Duncan HO107 Piece 1496 Folio 460 Page 4
try entering Geo* Duncan in search box
Cecilia is indexed as CECELIA  HO107 Piece 1496 Folio 292 Page 36


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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 April 09 20:34 BST (UK) »
That's great!Thank you very much for locating them.
Regards,
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 April 09 21:01 BST (UK) »
Barbara,sorry to be a pest but I'm unable to find these 1851 entries. I tried on freecen (& also GenesReunited). Would you be able to tell me whereabouts they are? I'm not familiar with the refererences & may have entered them in the wrong sections!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.


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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 April 09 00:33 BST (UK) »
Hi flst,

I used a different site so may be indexed differently on the ones you've used

HO107 Piece 1496 Folio 460 Page 4 may perhaps need to be entered as HO107/1496/460/4

Anyway here are my transcriptions:

1851  HO107 Piece 1496 Folio 460 Page 4
London & NorthWest Railway Station, St. Pancras, London
Geoe. DUNCAN   unm  34  Railway Policeman  b.Parish of Garwood, Banffshire, Scotland


1851  HO107 Piece 1496 Folio 292 Page 36
5 Seymour Street, St. Pancras, London
Cecelia DUNCAN  head mar 29   Gloucester, Bristol


Do you have their marriage certificate giving fathers' names and occupations which may help to find them in the 1841 census?

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 09 20:28 BST (UK) »
Barbara,thanks so much for your help, & advice about how to amend my profile.It was driving me mad!
Regarding the marriage certificate -no,I do n't have it. I found out about their marriage in the freebmd site.It's strange how George is shown as unmarried in 1851 census.However,from their death certificates I can tell you this;
George's parents were;John Duncan,labourer,deceased & Jean Duncan m.s.Gall,deceased (as at 17 Dec 1871).
Cecilia's father was John Williams,worker in ?glue...?,Bristol,deceased (as at 29 May 1873).Her sister in law was the informant & obviously did n't know her mother's details. I have tried to locate the Duncan's in scotlandspeople but have not found them yet!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 April 09 22:26 BST (UK) »
Hi flst

On the census all the railway policemen are bracketed together, all as 'head' of household and all unmarried, so probably just a mistake.

That's quite a bit of information from the death certs, will have another look now in 1841 for them

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look up please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 April 09 22:50 BST (UK) »
I suppose this could be George before he went into the police force! So many to choose from but this one living in Gamrie

1841   ED 3A  Page 1
Shore, Gamrie, Banffshire
George Milin  21  Shoe M.
George Duncan 30 Fisherman
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