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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 April 09 16:05 BST (UK) »
Ceri, Gadget :).......Gwytherin Baptisms.

April 3 1822. Elias & Anna(twins) of Robert Williams. Tyn Caeau?. Farmer & Jane Williams. Bwlch Gwyn. Servant Maid.
Nov 21 1824. Margaret d/o Robert & Jane Williams Nant Yr ??????. Farmer.
June 3 1827. Thomas. s/o Robert & Jane Williams Nant Yr ??????. Farmer.
June 11 1827. OWEN. s/o Robert & Jane Williams. Tyn Caeau. Farmer.
Sep 13 1829. William. s/o Robert & Jane Williams. Tyn Caeau. Farmer.

Looks like two Robert & Jane Williams, Farmers in Gwytherin :-\

Only had time for a quick look in marriages :(
June 25 1814.
Robert Williams. bachelor. 25. of this parish.
Jane Morris(x) spinster 24. of this parish.
Witnesses. William Williams & John Williams.

June 6 1826.
Robert Williams(x). bachelor. of this parish.
Jane Williams(x). spinster. of this parish.
Witnesses. John Williams & Margaret Williams(x)
(x)=did not sign made mark.

What do you make of that Bridget? :) :-\

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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 April 09 16:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul;

Some good finds there  :)

I'm thinking about the servant maid, etc. and a possible subsequent marriage in 1826. Tricky.

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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 April 09 16:14 BST (UK) »
Confused me a bit Gadget ;D but you know how easily confused I get :-[

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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 April 09 16:35 BST (UK) »
The family that I found on the 1841 looks as if it's the same one who had the Margaret bpt. in 1824. This would be the same family who had a Thomas bpt 3 June 1827 and living Nantyr.

Owen was bpt 11 June 1827 and his parents were given as living Tyn Caeau so it looks as if they're a different family.

So where are the Tyn Caeau family in 1841?


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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 April 09 16:37 BST (UK) »
The 1822 bpt. are also for the Tyn Caeau family and it looks as if Robert and Jane were n't married then.

I think the 1826 marriage  might possibly be of Owen's parents.


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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 April 09 19:14 BST (UK) »
Bridget, Paul,

That's more than I could have hoped for, thank you. :D
 I looked at the 1841 census and found Moses Lewis and his wife Jane living at Tyn y Caeau and William Williams aged 11 living with them. They are still there in 1851 but as Moses and Jane Roberts and Catherine Williams aged 17 there too.

Is it likely that Jane Lewis is Jane Williams with her second husband?  :-\

Ceri

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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 April 09 19:45 BST (UK) »
From the Gwytherin parish records, children whose parents were a Robert and Jane Williams:

   
Parish,Year,Month,Day,Name,Father,Mother, Surname, Fathers Occupation,Abode    
   
   Gwytherin    1815    4    9    William    Robert    Jane        Williams    Labourer    Rectory House            
   Gwytherin    1817    6    15    Owen    Robert    Jane        Williams    Labourer    Ty'n Coed Isa            
   Gwytherin    1824    11    21    Margaret    Robert    Jane        Williams    Farmer    Nant yr Henfaes            
   Gwytherin    1827    6    3    Thomas    Robert    Jane        Williams    Farmer    Nant yr Henfaes            
   Gwytherin    1827    6    11    Owen    Robert    Jane        Williams    Farmer    Ty'n y Caeau            
   Gwytherin    1829    9    13    William    Robert    Jane        Williams    Farmer    Ty'n Caeau        

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Morris, Daniel, Roberts, Lewis, Owen, Jones, Evans of Denbighshire (Llangernyw, Gwytherin, Pandy Tudur, Llansannan, Llanfair TH, etc)

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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 30 April 09 19:54 BST (UK) »
There are also these burial records for Gwytherin:

1831    26th Feb    Robert    Williams    Ty'n Caeau    age 59        
1841    12th July    Robert    Roberts    Ty'n y Caeau    age 4        
1862    28th Aug    Jane    Williams    Ty'n Caeau    age 61

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Wetton, Matthews, Sutton, Goodwin, Clarkson, Allman of Staffordshire
Morris, Daniel, Roberts, Lewis, Owen, Jones, Evans of Denbighshire (Llangernyw, Gwytherin, Pandy Tudur, Llansannan, Llanfair TH, etc)

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Re: Owen Williams born 1827 Llanrwst
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 30 April 09 20:13 BST (UK) »
Headstone in Gwytherin church grounds reads:

ER COF
am
ROBERT WILLIAMS,
TY'N Y CAEAU,
a gladdwyd, Chwefror 25, 1831
HEFYD
JANE, ei wraig a gladdwyd,
Awst 15, 1862: yn 61 oed.
Hefyd am CATHERINE, eu merch,
a gladdwyd, Mawrth 10ed 1886:
yn 50 oed.

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Wetton, Matthews, Sutton, Goodwin, Clarkson, Allman of Staffordshire
Morris, Daniel, Roberts, Lewis, Owen, Jones, Evans of Denbighshire (Llangernyw, Gwytherin, Pandy Tudur, Llansannan, Llanfair TH, etc)

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