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Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« on: Thursday 30 April 09 10:31 BST (UK) »


hi there, x
          i was just wondering if anyone on RC is researching the plant family,
and if there are any plants out there that can claim this family?

my grt granny was Annie Plant 1903-1984 she married Charles Bruce Aitken in 1923, i have their marriage cert which shows Arthur G Plant (platelayer) as her father, my mum has wonderful childhood memory's of visiting Yorkshire in 1960's, ill have to find the photo's,
i will be going back as far as i can with the Plant family, so if theres anyone
out there with Plant connections, come and join me,

1901 England Census
Arthur G Plant b 1870 31yrs, Charndon, Buckinghamshire,(head)
his wife Elizabeth b 1873 28yrs, Bedale, Yorkshire,
they lived in Darlington, St John, Durham 
Arthur was a platelayer N.E.R ? (would this be railway?)
Williamth Plant 4yrs son (says William on original page)
Lilian Plant 3yrs  daughter
John T Lamb 19yrs  Boarder, platelayer
......................................

then in 1911 census they were living in
East Cowton, North allerton, County Yorkshire, North Riding
Lillian Plant 12yrs daughter
Annie Plant 7yrs daughter (my grt granny)     
Arthur Plant 5yrs son
William is missing in 1911, he would have been 14yrs, would he have been
to young to leave behind? or maybe he died.

ok, hope to hear from someone, thanks for reading,

kaz, x
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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 April 09 11:15 BST (UK) »
i think this could be my Arthur...

in the 1871 England Census
Arthur George Plant 1yrs b 1870/Son  born Charndon, Buckinghamshire,
dad, Joseph 30yrs b 1841 head born Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Mum, Sarah 27yrs b 1844 wife, born Twyford, Buckinghamshire
living in Twyford, Charndon, Buckinghamshire   

Joseph Plant  agricultural labourerer 
Sarah Plant 
William James Plant 7yrs/son 
Mary Anne Plant 5yrs/daughter 
Thomas Jesse Plant 4yrs/son 
Frederic Alfred Plant 2yrs/son 
Arthur George Plant 1yrs/son 
 
also i noticed on the census in the same street is...
Isaac plant 37yrs agricultural labour
Martha/wife 33yrs
Miriam?/daughter 13yrs
Diana/daughter 11yrs
John/son 9yrs agricultural labourer (at 9 yrs old?)
Samual/son 7yrs
Betsy/daughter 4yrs
Thomas/son 2yrs
Anne/daughter 2months

could be a brother of Joseph?
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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 April 09 17:02 BST (UK) »
NER is the North Eastern Railway

Plate layers were trackmen. The term dates back to the earliest days of the railways when they were known as plateways and were built using short sections of iron bar or angle sections, rather than the rails we know today. as the photo's show, a plate layer would be responsible for all aspects of track maintenance such as replacing worn out rails or rotten sleepers, packing to ensure a level track, weeding and clearance of the drains etc.

My GGrandfather was a platelayer too  ;D
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 April 09 17:24 BST (UK) »


hi madpants, x

                      thanks, thats interesting, now i know ;D

ive found lots today, ill post in here when im finished, just incase there are plants out there, somewhere, HELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 April 09 19:10 BST (UK) »

 :)


Hi Mamakaz

That's a great answer from Madpants about platelayers...........and the N.E.R.  Up here in the Highlands we have the G.N.E.R., which is the Great North Eastern Railway.

Also, one of our family, Frederick William Cook, (late 19C), of Sculcoates, nr Hull, Yorkshire, was a Railway Carm................Madpants,  is this Carman?    ???

And would you please be kind enough to share what you know a Carm on the railways is?   :o

Mamakaz, its Spring, your arboretum needs to expand, please, please, where are these plants???   ???

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 May 09 19:34 BST (UK) »


hi dan, x
             lol, and i need to get my peas planted ;D


ok, there is no one on RC researching plants but ill post what ive found
just incase there is anyone in the future.

Arthur PLANT,1871 in Charndon, Bucks, England
parents
Joseph PLANT b: 1841 in Charndon, Bucks., England
Sarah HODGES b: 11 MAY 1845 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Married: 24 DEC 1863 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 10 children all born in in Charndon, Bucks, England...

Mary Ann 1866
Thomas   1867
Frederick 1869
Arthur b: 1871
Elizabeth 1873
Herbert   1873
Kezia      1876
John      1878
Florence  1879
Edith     1881

....................

Sarah HODGES parents
Thomas HODGES b: 10 DEC 1797 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mary RAY b: 1809 in Adstock, Bucks., England
Married: 31 AUG 1829 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 14 children, all born in Twyford, Bucks

Samuel   20 DEC 1829
 Sarah   12 DEC 1830
 James   22 JAN 1832
 Robert  6 OCT 1833
 William 12 APR 1835
 Thomas  10 SEP 1837
 Jesse   6 OCT 1839
 Harriett 17 OCT 1841
 Edward  19 NOV 1843
 Sarah   11 MAY 1845 
 Benjamin 27 DEC 1846
 George  2 APR 1848
 Mark    5 JAN 1851
 Thomas  23 MAY 1853

......................

Thomas Hodges parents...
Father: John HODGES b: 25 DEC 1773 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mother: SARAH
(In 1881, Thomas was a widowed pauper, lodging with the family of Joseph and Sarah Plant
(my grt, grt, grt grandparents) in Twyford)

they had six children, all born in Twyford, Bucks

 Thomas 10 DEC 1797
 James  18 MAY 1800
 Samuel 15 AUG 1802
 Elizabeth 31 MAR 1805
 John   29 NOV 1807
 Susannah 3 FEB 1811

.......................


John Hodges parents...
William HODGES b: ABT 1743 in Twyford, Bucks., England
ELIZABETH


they had 10 children, all born in tywford, bucks...

William 6 MAY 1770
Mary    12 JAN 1772
John    25 DEC 1773
Elizabeth   15 SEP 1776
Thomas      29 AUG 1779
Nancy       21 OCT 1781
Sarah       30 NOV 1783
Jane        20 AUG 1786
Abigail      6 SEP 1789
Rebecca     13 FEB 1791
..........................

William Hodges parents...
John HODGES b: in Twyford, Bucks, England
Ann SMITH
29 APR 1739 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 10 children in Twyford, Bucks, ...

Elizabeth 24 FEB 1739
Ann       14 MAR 1741
William   ABT 1743
Mary    25 MAR 1744
John    27 JUL 1746
Thomas  19 FEB 1748
Catherine 3 FEB 1750
Sarah     3 FEB 1750
Samuel    3 JAN 1753
Sarah   14 MAR 1756
...........................
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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 May 09 20:00 BST (UK) »


 :)

Hi Mamakaz

What wonderful family facts you've unearthed now........!!   ;D

Lets hope that someone, somewhere, very, very soon, connected to your Plants, will rapidly get in touch with you??????     ???

Personally, I'm a rose fancier myself, but love the scent of Sweet Peas, also Freesias......please Plants, respond to Mamakaz, and get your Tree branching out.......

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 May 09 08:58 BST (UK) »
hi Dan, xxxx

                  i love roses too but i never have any luck with them,

ok, here is what i have so far...



Joseph's parents (Arthurs Father(my grt grt grandad))

James Plant b 1816 in Charndon, Bucks,
Kesia Parker b 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Married: 3 OCT 1800 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,

they had 4 children all born in Charndon, Buckinghamshire, England


John 1849
Jonas 1852
Jane 1854
Jemima 1857

Martha parker nee Roberts (Kesia's mother) was staying with them in the 1861 census

.........................

Kesia Parkers parents...

Richard PARKER b 1777 in Piddington, Oxfordshire, England
Martha ROBERTS b 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, England

they had 8 children...


Richard 4 OCT 1801 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Mary   19 MAY 1804 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
John   16 OCT 1808 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Thomas  9 APR 1811 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Isaac  20 FEB 1814 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kerenhappuck  24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kesia  24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
William 17 JAN 1819 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks 

...........................

Martha Roberts nee Parker (Kesia's mother) parents

Richard ROBERTS b: 1746 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
Death MAY 1824 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Burial 15 MAY 1824 St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Ann DRAPER
Married: 31 DEC 1770 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks

children...
John ROBERTS 21 JUL 1771 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Martha ROBERTS 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks

...........................

Richard Roberts (Martha's father) parents...

Richard ROBERTS
Sarah PARKER b: 18 AUG 1718 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,

............................


Sarah Parkers parents

John PARKER b: ABT 1680 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
MARY

they had 9 children, all born in Marsh Gibbon

Anne 7 MAY 1704
Anne 16 DEC 1705
Mary 28 JAN 1708
Elizabeth 31 JAN 1710
John PARKER MAY 1712
Martha PARKER 20 OCT 1714
Sarah PARKER 18 AUG 1718
Thomas PARKER 5 JUN 1721
Rebecca PARKER 20 AUG 1722

............................

ok, thats as far as ive got, i have gaps and missing BDM's so if any
Plants, Hodges, Parkers, Drapers and Roberts may be able to correct and/or
fill in the gaps,
thanks for reading, kaz, xxxx
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 May 09 11:01 BST (UK) »


 :)

Hi Mamakaz

Would send you a whole big bunch of roses, if I could, for all the wonderful work you've done on the Plants.......................and, to get  SO  far back, that is truly amazing!    :D

I'm also posting this to show you that someone is reading your thread!!!    8)

Where are current Plants?  I've asked all my family and they are going to try come up with some, that they may have come across down the years!!!!     ;D

Wonder if you placed the same Topic in England, Bucks, if you might find some actual living Plants?    ;)

Good luck to you gal.............

Cheers

Danchaslyn

xxxxx
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MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa