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Offline vonngirl

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Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« on: Monday 21 February 05 07:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm transcribing a letter from a distant cousin with very bad handwriting - (the letter is from the 1930s). In the letter she is giving some family history details (landholdings in Scotland - Edinburgh area I assume) - but I don't know if she is refering to towns, villages, or family estates. Below is an excerpt of her letter - I know some of the spellings aren't accurate, but maybe someone will recognize the names (or what they should be). The names in question are italicized. Thank you!


Robt. 6th Lord. created Earl Winton. 1600 –
+ so it continues – there is no trace of him or
                 with Turnbull         
in any connections ^  - it must just be a
part of the then Culder portion as assigned
to Dr. Andrew Anderson as husband of
Magdalene Sandilands – by the way, the
Searcher told me he had heard threw  a  Sandiland
that the Sandilands did not “recognize” that
marriage. never the less the dispisition is
dated Feb. 16th 1763. Dr. A A’s Testament-
dispising of Lands of Dressilriy, Sorndy jail +
Braxenford. obtained by him from his brother-in-
law, 7th Baron (Toiphicer) with consensus by his
mother in law Christina Primrose, who was
who was, her father, heiress (as onl daughter) James
Primrose, brother of Lord Dalineny. 1704 dab
of Transfer. D.A.A. divided this property
into 4 shares for his children-
      Andrew    James,   Elizabeth=      Janet-
                                             ch.         
      Surf.      Surf.      =Mitchell. (3)   Wi. Berry
        June arc_     Madro      +      ch.      Ed. – one only
                    Geo Bayne (2)   Andra Berry
                              m_     
The divided Lands of Dressilriy into 4 shares
   Elz abeth A. dau/Christine Primrose died before 1802,
   when David M. her son, was served heir – but by
   an arrangement this share went to D Adam Turnbull
   husband of her daughter – Susan (Bayne).
   The remaining ¾ joined to D Mitchell + Andrew
   Berry who had seisen thereof as heirs of
   their uncle (James A. Jamaicu) + Janet A.
   wife of W. Berry. Feb. 15 1822
Turnbull
Stewart
Cameron
Armstrong
Russell

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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 February 05 09:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi vonngirl,

this site might help: http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/gaztitle.html

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The Gazetteer for Scotland is a vast encyclopaedia, featuring details of towns, villages, bens and glens from the Scottish Borders to the Northern Isles. The first comprehensive gazetteer produced for Scotland since 1885, it includes tourist attractions, industries and historical sites, together with histories of family names and biographies of famous people associated with Scotland. The network of connections between all of these entries make this gazetteer unique. Visitors will also find we have linked Groome's 19th Century Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland into our contemporary entries to provide a historical perspective.


I tried a search for "dressilry" as a place name or feaure with "similar sounding" and got

Features: Derclach Loch
Derculich
Derculich, Loch
 Derry, Glen
Drochil Castle
 
Settlements: Derculich
 Dorsell
 


I then tried "jamaicu" under "families" and "people", also "similar sounding" and got 150 entries, which you can check for possibles.

Try your other names too, it might come up with a variation which brings you further

Good luck,
Bob
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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 February 05 10:18 GMT (UK) »
The following site may also give some information about the Earldom you mention at the start
http://www.angeltowns.com/town/peerage/
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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 February 05 18:44 GMT (UK) »
Hiya,

I think...

Toiphicer = Torphichen
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/WLN/Torphichen/

Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 February 05 19:02 GMT (UK) »
I found something that may help work this out?

The National Archives holds papers for James Sandiland 7th Baron of Torphichen.

http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/browser/person/page/person_SA.htm

Primrose's were Lord Dalmeny therefore
Dalineny = Dalmeny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Primrose,_5th_Earl_of_Rosebery

Still thinking about the land names.

Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 05 15:27 BST (UK) »
Hi There..I wondered if the TOIPHICER could be TORPHICEN...an district in Edinburgh

Also There was a George Lord Seton 5th and last  who was from an old family in East Lothian (Parish of Pencaitland) owned the lands of WINTON present house was errected in 1619 but the Setons go back to 1404...any help?cheers Tribalarts

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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 November 08 19:29 GMT (UK) »
I have been searching this family for a few years now and found a GREAT Googlebook reference:
http://books.google.com/books?id=oRgFAAAAYAAJ

Look on pg. 174 of this book under the chapter Dressilrig.

ALL will be explained. Anyone seen the original poster vonngirl?? How may I contact her???



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Re: Looking for correct spelling of family estates/towns.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 November 08 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi amacwizard,

vonngirl has not been online since Tuesday 22 February 05 20:22 GMT, you maybe can send her a pm, but unless you get an email address, they may not respond.

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.